(July 10, 2017 at 3:07 pm)JackRussell Wrote:(July 10, 2017 at 1:16 pm)SteveII Wrote: No, I don't think there is any evidence that God's moral qualities have changed even between the testaments. God has traits such as holiness and justice in addition to love and compassion that must be satisfied. Also, ensuring the necessary conditions for Jesus' first coming (the greater good) has to be factored in.
Ok, god gave us free-will, yet he hardened pharaoh's heart. [1]
God does not murder, but then the poor fool who stumbled and fell against the Ark was obliterated. [2]
OT gods and the OT message are different. And they both contain things any modern western human, at least, would say is immoral.[3]
1. So? An argument could easily be made that God was ensuring circumstances conducive to a greater good. Are you saying that an omniscient God who can see the trillion upon trillions of effects every ancient decision has, did not desire a specific outcome? What moral lapse does this represent?
2. God cannot murder by definition. The ark represented God's presence on earth. Holiness trumped mercy.
3. Immoral if a person made those decisions. Why can't God judge people? What does timing have to do with anything? Do you think that God 'owes' anyone a long life? If you believe the incarnation was by far the greatest good, any preservation of the events that led to it would be morally justified coming from an omniscient God.
