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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
(July 12, 2017 at 10:19 am)SteveII Wrote:
(July 12, 2017 at 9:54 am)Lutrinae Wrote: 4. When god's morals so perfectly mirror that of evil human dictators throughout history, it begs the question of whether theists truly understand the meaning of good.

Oh, I see. You think everything is God's plan. It is my view that you have to distinguish between God effecting his plan of redemption and his promises to those that believe within a world of free will and sin vs. the effects of free will and sin.
Irrelevant. Nothing happens without god either permitting it or causing it, and nothing is outside his ability to prevent, so he is still ultimately responsible for the mayhem. If a burglar comes into my house and slits my children's throats while I passively watch, I can't claim I'm a good father, using as an excuse that I'm not interfering in the burglar's free will.
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by mordant - July 12, 2017 at 10:56 am

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