(July 12, 2017 at 10:26 am)Lutrinae Wrote:(July 12, 2017 at 10:19 am)SteveII Wrote: Oh, I see. You think everything is God's plan. It is my view that you have to distinguish between God effecting his plan of redemption and his promises to those that believe within a world of free will and sin vs. the effects of free will and sin.
Behind that curtain of word salad which resides the supposed omni-everything, and theists are all too fond of extrapolating on god's unknowable nature.
IMO, it seems like the common variable in humanity's vast experiences of this reality, god belief in particular, is the human mind itself. Now, if the human mind, something which could arguably be labeled as unknowable (at least for now), is the primary source of our experiences, then is it not sensible to suspend declarative statements about what constitutes the nature of reality until humanity has a better understanding of itself and the external reality that it occupies? To put it another way, is it sensible to take a theorem about integers that one does not completely understand and assume that he or she can always apply it to the set of real numbers? Hence, perhaps a healthy dosage of agnosticism and a constant questioning of one's particular starting points is the key to learning more about ourselves along with gaining a more accurate understanding of reality as it is.
