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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
(July 12, 2017 at 8:34 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote:
(July 12, 2017 at 7:39 pm)SteveII Wrote: God could not tell us to do something immoral. Since his nature can't change, every command will be moral at the time of the command or for the intended duration of the command. 

You do not have the same rights, authority, responsibility, knowledge, and perfect moral clarity that God does, so...No.


For the duration? No, it has to be moral forever after the command otherwise there is a change. Once god commands something, it IS moral. Unless he can change his morality?

So there is a double standard going on. God can do it because he is god, and I can't do it because I'm not god.

Objective morality means that something being right or wrong is a natural fact. Rights, authority, responsibility, knowledge, perfect moral clarity and especially feelings have no bearing on objectivity so leave them out of this. If something is objectively right, then it is right no matter who does it. Same for wrong. So if god always does what is objectively right, then I can do whatever he does knowing that it is objectively right. So the question is: Does god always do what is objectively right?

Certainly some commands are specific to a people, time, nation or objective. 

Double standard implies that you both have the same standing. You don't.

Objectivity requires that the standards not be influences by things that change (opinion, circumstance, etc.), The eternal nature of God is such a thing and so is clearly objective. Since our moral values and duties stem from the nature of God (via God's commands--because otherwise we would not be aware of them or how to apply them), they are objectively moral. 

Your leap from there being a set of objective values to you having the right to enforce them or deliver the consequences of breaking them is unwarranted. Our moral values and duties stem from the commands of God. An example is needed if you want to discuss this issue further--you must have one in mind.
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by SteveII - July 13, 2017 at 8:55 am

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