RE: Help with a Catholic
July 27, 2011 at 1:32 am
(This post was last modified: July 27, 2011 at 1:35 am by Hurny.)
Quote:Hurny I've been reading this entire post and paying attention closely to what you have written and the responses to what you've written and it's there same old worn out arguments. I've been on this forum for a while now and nothing has changed in the way they argue a point, they gang-up on someone and throw a bunch of the same old stuff and always telling christians we have no ground to stand on, they come up with nothing new they just spew the same old stuff, it gets to be boring at times. I believe from what I've read that you are a fair minded person who can determine from your own mind and heart what is true, just take the time to meditate on what your friend is telling you and make up your own mind on the matter. Look at Min's response to my previous post and you will see the general attitude towards christians on this forum. He thinks that I do not like catholics because I'm a baptist, well at least that's what he wants you to think so that you will disregard what I write and if you do, well that's your choice, make that choice for yourself, it is your life that will be changed, not theirs, if you chose to believe what they say. I have no problem with a lot of catholics and know many I'll see in heaven, I do however have a problem with the persons who run the catholic church because they have instituted some things I see as not standing with what Christ taught. Now I want to say that I do have a respect for most of the nonbelievers on this forum, heck if it wasn't for them I would have no rep. at all, my rep. points have come from them because I stand my ground on what I believe and they seem to appreciate that, and I'm taking a firm stand against what they have told you and am encouraging you to make up your own mind. Now for my two cents worth, if there are no objective standards or morals then why do we have a standard of law, that's not to say all laws are right but the greatest majority are humans are not perfect.
Well thanks for the respectful reply. I do appreciate the help everyone is giving me the only thing I wish is that we could focus a little more on reasoning through the arguments with a little less irrelevant criticism's. I guess I'm to blame also because I make my posts too long and cram too many topics in one. But I think I can say my main priority is to find out which arguments line up best with reason and seem to make sense of the universe.
I haven't talked to my coworker too much about the differences in Christian denominations but I have studied them a bit in history courses and in some books I've read. The thing that I guess I don't understand is the reformation. As you mentioned some what and from what I've heard other non-catholics mention, they all say things about the Catholics being some bad institution but wasn't it the only Christian church for the 1500 years before the reformation?
Also if you don't mind educating me a bit, where or when I guess did Baptist's begin? I only really know about Lutheran's and the other guy who worked with him in the reformation.
