(July 20, 2017 at 8:52 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(July 20, 2017 at 6:15 pm)SteveII Wrote: LOL. What happened to the other 3 points? Abandoning Morrison after just one post!! Your hatred of WLC leads you to believe that people have answers to his arguments and all you have to do is post a link and your done. It seems you don't even understand them.
Now you want me to follow you down a theoretical rabbit trail and redefine infinity so we can somehow go back and apply it to something else entirely to prop up your theory? You couldn't even quote mine something that would even suggest this is a productive mode of inquiry into the question of a past infinite number of cause/effects. No thanks!
Professor Morriston can speak for himself; I am not his apologist. I think that he makes very good arguments but I am not about to beat a dead horse with you. I suggest that you read the following from Professor Kenneth Krane, his textbook Modern Physics, 3rd edition (typically taught in the second semester of the sophomore year for physics majors); note what he says about the Universe being infinite in spatial extent:
(July 20, 2017 at 7:51 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Ok... this to me, points towards a cause for the effect we see. What is it, that leads you to believe that nothing was a cause. How do you come to this conclusion?
Can you explain those, and show where you start with nothing, which causes something.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther