Pat gets mad

[Judas BentHer]

I don't find credible anyone who makes spit spewing hate filled rhetoric videos attempting to slam Pat Condell for his points of view about Islam, while in the same attack attempt to assure the viewer the cause for their demeanor is they object strongly to Pat Condell's spewing hate filled rhetoric about Islam.

I adore Pat Condell and his daring. And while the reasonable viewer of his videos knows, even those who may have only just learned of his video library, that Condell is an atheist and a man who is addressing the bare bones of what inspires Islamists. The Koran.

And while there are a great many Muslims in the world and not all are violent terrorist wife beating daughter murdering trash, that there are such people calling themselves "true Muslims" while condemning other Muslims not so inclined, the violent Muslim is so due to their believing they are entitled as yet another tribe of those people of the book.

While gentle good people who integrate well with an eclectic community of individuals, while also being Muslim, are not, as is obvious in Pat Condell's address, those Muslims he's calling out and pointing out to the rest of the western world who imagine "religious tolerance" has no bounds. Not even when backward wife beating daughter murdering bigots who call themselves Muslim, expect it.

It's a pretty sorry weak platform that has arisen against Condell when everyone with an ounce of guts or one synapse that fires correctly, condemn radical ultra-right wing extremist Muslim terrorism. And then condemn one man who condemns it too.

The potential, the personal choice, in being an ultra-right wing extremist Muslim terrorist or not is the sole responsibility of the individual who either finds Islam or is already a practicing Muslim. And the source from whence that inspiration is drawn, either to be ultra-extreme or moderate, is derived from one source; the Koran.

While what is missed by those who criticize Pat Condell for his work in addressing the extremists, as one man among many others including Muslims and former Muslims, is that Imam's and Muslims can be found to declare there is no such thing as radical Islam or moderate Islam. That Islam is Islam!

What Pat Condell is addressing in his videos is that very fact. Islam is Islam. So while many folks can point at Muslims they know personally or here on the forum and say, but see? So and so isn't an extremist! Again it goes back to the original rational point. That's because they choose not to be. It's not because the Koran declares it is forbidden to be, and so they obey! They make a personal choice due to their personal moral character not to follow chapter and verse the one book that leads those who are extremists, to be so and in doing so believe they are true Muslims as opposed to those others not like them yet calling themselves Muslim.

Because again, Islam is Islam.

Putting the responsibility on Condell for pointing out that fact, is missing the point. He's talking about a political ideology. And it's guidebook for all those billions said to belong to it, whether Shia, Sunni, Wahhabis and/or Salafists, is but one book. And the conflict between even Muslims, is how that book is interpreted and practiced by the individual.
As "Apostate" and "Kafir" are terms to denote, as in any religion, there is an Us and Them paradigm .

So it's not a matter of legitimate attack being levied against Condell when it's said, he's lying that's not Islam! When headline after headline proves the world over, not to mention reading the Koran, that it is. And that is who he's talking about.
While talking to the issue itself falls under attack, which is telling and a bit of an irony. Because now, in the age of Political Correctness, some find it wrong to differentiate non-violent Muslims using the term, "Moderate Islam" and so there's a movement afoot to find a new non-offensive term to replace, "Moderate" and "Radical".
Because goodness knows, we don't want to offend Muslims. While moderate and radical attitudes and practice exist and hold potential to come to the fore, in Christianity, Judaism and any faith that a person holds dear when they imagine what they choose to define their existence, is strictly personal and in direct opposition to those others in the fold who go to the extreme thinking that faith should be considered good enough to everyone else in the world to follow too.

It's a tragic consequence that follows terrorist Muslims campaigns having a devastating effect on the mind set of the west. Now many are thinking we can't dare offend, we must be tolerant, we must dissect Islam and it's followers so as to recognize there are peaceful Muslims and not so much. We must give the benefit of the doubt that Islam, the Koran, the Hadith, which Muhammad never intended to be followed as holy writ but instead taught that the Koran was the only source for guidance in Islam, that while there are radicals in practice we have to open our society, our laws, our minds to the optimistic viewpoint that hopes our tolerance will only encourage the peaceful Muslims. The "Moderates".

Tolerance! Must be preached while the Pat Condell's of the world who state quite forthrightly that tolerance has no doctrine in Islam, must be condemned.

How tragic. How blind. Tolerance? In Islam?
Yes, that must be why we see churches and synagogues in Saudi Arabia. And why there's those same religiously inspired temples flourishing amid an eclectic societal tolerance in Mecca.








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