(July 18, 2011 at 9:43 pm)annatar Wrote: Hey guys, a Christian friend of mine and I were discussing about the original sin recently. He said that we are not actually accountable for that apple eating sin of Adam and Eve. But somehow their act affected us and made us all sinners, so now everybody sins. Therefore no one can get into heaven in their current situation, even if they've done good deeds. Only by sacrificing his son for our sins, god can allow us get to heaven.(I'm not even bother trying to explain why this whole idea is idiotic) My question is, if that's true, doesn't that make all the events before Jesus, --like the great flood kinda wiping out people events-- extremely unnecessary? I mean okay, we are sinners because we are affected by some Adam&Eve apple eating virus or something, and there is no cure for it, except for sacrificing Jesus. Then why the hell did you tried to prevent us to sin, or punished us when we sinned, anyway? So Christian forum mates, if you believe in this idea as my friend does, can you explain this to me? And, if you believe there is another explanation to original sin I'd like to hear it too.
Hello,
I don't quite agree that man is not accountable for Adam's sin, Adam was mankind's representative so when he sinned we all sinned. Though it is true that man is now completely affected by sin and can do nothing good apart from the grace of God. As to the point about the flood, could you please elaborate? I am not quite following what you are asking on that one.
P.S. Why exactly do you feel the atonement is "idiotic"?