(August 4, 2017 at 11:47 pm)Astonished Wrote:(August 4, 2017 at 11:18 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: When I was a Muslim there never was this strong concept of faith, I was merely taught that a god is self evident and as real as the stars and earth. I would not say all religions teach faith like Christians profess. This would be an oversimplification of what is at hand when it comes to the religious theists. Instead I would ask why is there so much certainty in god or can you imagine a world without it. Even when my own mother brought this up she said she would flat out murder people if there was no god yet in reality she is a very dishonest and manipulative person who uses a god to confirm her own immorality and not the reverse. So things like this bug me but not as much as whether faith is necessary for theists.
Everybody exhibits faith in their life, as we all do that the earth won't get hit with a meteor the next day. If we did not we would all be owning bunkers at the moment and only invest in subterranean real estate. Faith is not as real to Christians or Muslim as it is certainty in god's existence and presence in their life.
Muslims just like Christians take a god and reflec all their behaviour back to that imaginary being despite their own capabilities. I know Muslims who excel in mathematics and profound concepts but reflect this all to a deity but never to themselves. It makes you wonder why they studied so hard and worked for what they wanted to begin with if their "lives are in God's hands."
Pinpointed it. There was just something distractingly disingenuous in how you wrote on other threads and this is a glaring red flag (if it's unintentional, whatever, it's just a tad bothersome when it feels like I'm reading something written by two different people using the same name). But seriously, don't just make a bogus generalization like that. You're misusing faith just as badly as theists when they deliberately misrepresent the rationalistic perspective, and you're also wildly exaggerating that inappropriate example of how we (don't) use it anyway. That doesn't really square with the label of anti-theist under your name, if indeed that was the label you intended under the literal definition. Please reconsider your position on this completely false equivalency. It's disrespectful to any non-believer if not outright condescending.
I have been posting on here for quite some time and even longer than you. On top of this is the fact that there is no difference in definition of faith unless you are using it to be polite towards the religious. Faith is merely a belief held without good evidence at its most crudest usage.
And you seriously have no understanding of anti-theism in the slightest. I am more concerned with your understanding of atheism since so many are trying to make it a religion while telling the religious otherwise. Atheism is not a set of beliefs or an affiliation with an ideology, so stop preaching otherwise or go make your own religion but don't go telling other atheists or in my case anti-theists who and what they are.
You are no different than an evangelical.
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