RE: Do Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence?
August 5, 2017 at 6:16 pm
(This post was last modified: August 5, 2017 at 6:40 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:Additionally... without other reasons what do you think that the likelihood of a normally healthy person who doesn't have a history of hallucinations or similar defects, just happens to have one, right when it conflicts with your world view.
Then you don't understand hallucination in a religious context . And this has dick all to do with explaining away or worldviews . Nor does a hallucination require mental illness or your brain to be defective .
Quote:These types of mistakes have limits, and I think the evaluation of them are going to depend on the details
Nope hallucination can be highly detailed . So it won't be determined that way.
Quote:without other reasons what do you think that the likelihood of a normally healthy person who doesn't have a history of hallucinations or similar defects, just happens to have one, right when it conflicts with your world view
High wiether they have a history or not. Again you don't need to be mentally ill to have hallucinations . And this has nothing to do with worldviews it has to do with research into religious psychology .
Quote: I don't really understand the extents of this type of mental illness and it's limits.
Then stop talking
Quote: I agree, we can make mistakes of observation or memory, but I think there is a problem if you are explaining things away in this manner, just because it conflicts with your worldview
Its not explaining things away and it has nothing to do with worldviews . Get that through your head.
(August 5, 2017 at 6:16 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:Quote:Additionally... without other reasons what do you think that the likelihood of a normally healthy person who doesn't have a history of hallucinations or similar defects, just happens to have one, right when it conflicts with your world view.
Then you don't understand hallucination in a religious context . And this has dick all to do with explaining away or worldviews . Nor does a hallucination require mental illness or your brain to be defective .
Quote:These types of mistakes have limits, and I think the evaluation of them are going to depend on the details
Nope hallucination can be highly detailed . So it won't be determined that way.
Quote:without other reasons what do you think that the likelihood of a normally healthy person who doesn't have a history of hallucinations or similar defects, just happens to have one, right when it conflicts with your world view
High wiether they have a history or not. Again you don't need to be mentally ill to have hallucinations . And this has nothing to do with worldviews it has to do with research into religious psychology .
Quote: I don't really understand the extents of this type of mental illness and it's limits.
Then stop talking
Quote: I agree, we can make mistakes of observation or memory, but I think there is a problem if you are explaining things away in this manner, just because it conflicts with your worldview
Its not explaining things away and it has nothing to do with worldviews . Get that through your head.
Quote:In fact, normals with a high propensity for hallucination have been identified as schizotypal, meaning they hallucinate nearly as easily as schizophrenics do but are not so prone to it as to be disabled. A schizotypal is ‘a relatively well-adjusted person who is functional despite, and in some cases even because of, his or her anomalous perceptual experiences’.[scholarship cited] Hallucination in schizotypals in fact has been shown to reduce their anxiety and thus has a positive personal function. In modern cultures a prevalent hostile attitude toward hallucinatory behavior still often drives schizotypals to become loners (because they are characterized as weirdos or insane and there is no recognized place for them), but in cultures that embrace hallucinators we see the opposite. For example, where we find cults that socially integrate schizotypals or even elevate them to positions of leadership, we find that schizotypals begin to congregate and socialize.[scholarship cited] In fact, culture determines how easily and frequently even normals will hallucinate, as well as how accepted and revered schizotypals will be.[scholarship cited] Modern ‘first world’ cultures are actually profoundly atypical among world cultures in stigmatizing and suppressing hallucinatory tendencies.[scholarship cited] As scientific observers have concluded, ‘the folk theory of visions and voices adopted by a culture may be important in determining whether a hallucination is viewed as veridical or as evidence of insanity’, which in turn greatly affects the commonality and acceptance of hallucination within a population.
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