(August 10, 2017 at 1:39 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(August 10, 2017 at 1:11 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: I just don't understand why people can't look past party lines and recognize when someone is truly bad for America. I mean, every president has it's loyal, zealous supporters. But there seems there should be a limit. If these people who really support this man and his cronies call themselves patriots, then they really aren't the patriots they claim to be.All you have to do is look around the world and you will see a lot of examples where people gladly support dipshits who are really, really bad for the nation as a whole. Most people tend to treat their leader as if he was a god and will support him regardless of how bad he is. Even the people who are being oppressed don't try to overthrow them. Common examples: the guys in Venezuela, the Philippines, Zimbabwe, North Korea, Turkey, Saudi Arabia.
I wouldn't put every citizen who lives under any government as always supporting their government. Plenty of refugees escape those places and we know from many they are glad they did.
There is a danger in thinking like that because once you do, you can potentially alienate those living under those governments who might be willing to work with you. That is how lots of our intel gathering works. You find people within those places who hate their government and you use them to spy on that government and disrupt their agendas.
North Korea is a horrible example, even if there were a majority that wanted to overthrow Kim, they would not be able to because he is a dictator. I don't know how old you are but back in 1989 this happened in China...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_...ts_of_1989
There are millions in China that would love to have a western open system. But because one party has controlled their government for so long it is virtually impossible even with those numbers, not to mention they have a population of 1 billion in any case.
But I do agree, even in the west we do sometimes elect some real assholes.
