RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 14, 2017 at 3:56 pm
(August 14, 2017 at 1:30 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(August 14, 2017 at 12:33 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Brian fuck you, I have asked now for the 3rd time to stop misrepresenting my position you angry dishonest little prick. I know the south supported slavery, I was pointing out that our laws do not grant the right to put up only statues of union soldiers. Towns are allowed to display monuments of statues that relate to the history of the town the people can vote whether or not they want these statues and that is a process that I support. I do not support your position that is a part of history that is embarrassing or immoral it shouldn't be displayed or worse should be forced by law not to be displayed.
I was referring to things like the Jefferson memorial and displays of the constitution which was signed by men who owned slaves and included no laws to protect against slavery.
You, "Mommy mommy, why cant we treat what the South did as equally as moral as what the North did?"
BECAUSE THE SOUTH SUPPORTED KEEPING SLAVERY FUCKFACE!
So you are right, but what the fuck does that have to do with the Civil War. You know what would have happened if the founders had pushed for Abolition, they would have either been drummed out of office or lynched. And yes some of the founders were Abolitionists. So the fuck what?
The Founders owned slaves yes no shit asshole. But we are not talking about the founders, we are talking about the side of a war that defended keeping slavery. The founders shouldn't have owned slaves either, so? That does not make what the South wanted in fighting to keep it moral.
Nobody is talking about justifying even the founders owning slaves so that is not an argument. And nobody is saying erase history. It still remains slavery was wrong. So was denying women the right to vote. So was genocide of native Americans. So was the internment of innocent Japanese during WW2.
"The Founders owned slaves too" is not an argument. No shit, and they were equally as wrong.
FYI slavery ended in the majority of the North around the time Jefferson had died. Many of the founders were Abolitionists
The beginning of Abolition in the North began as early as 1777..... Advocates included Franklin and Paine. By 1787 slavery was either outright banned or severely limited. By 1808 the importation of slaves was outright banned. Point being, the beginning of the end to slavery STILL started in the North.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitioni...ted_States
You still can't actually address the issue, I don't even know what you are arguing against and I'm not sure you know either. Should a town have the right to have a Robert E Lee statue, or should all confederate history be banned from public property? If you think it should be banned then why is the Jefferson Memorial allowed to stand.