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Pat gets mad
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RE: Pat gets mad
(July 29, 2011 at 8:06 am)Napoleon Wrote: So yet again we have someone saying "oh pat makes generalisations about islam!" without actually telling us all what they are. If you're going to make out like he does, then prove it. I would genuinely like to see.
By all means Rayaan, post a video where he's made a generalisation, and tell us all with your insider knowledge of Islam why he's making a generalisation. Shouldn't be too hard should it?

In one video, titled "The Trouble with Islam," he said that all the evidence points that Islam is a religion of war, and that it's "holy book urges Muslims to conquer the world and subjugate everyone to the rule of God" (starting from 1:45 in the video), which is not true because there are many evidences to the contrary. He also said that Muhammad was an "ancient desert nomad with a psychological disorder" (as if he really knows him).

I feel that his overall hatred for Islam is unjustified, which is a subjective thing, of course, and thus I'm aware that a person may not share the same view of Islam as I do. But that's okay.

(July 29, 2011 at 3:39 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: That is, until of course, it interferes with establishing identification and other security related procedures.

Yes, for the sake of identification and security reasons, I think they should take off whatever that they're wearing. It's just for a short time and they are required to do this. However, it is quite rare thing to see a Muslim woman covering her entire face these days (especially in many western countries). And most of them only cover the hair with a hijab, but not the face. But still, either way, I think it's important to adhere to the security codes of a country when necessary.
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As for building a "Ground Zero" mosque, in response to Judas BentHer's post, I agree that it is not a great idea either, but Muslims should be allowed to build a mosque if they are willing to pay for it and operate within the building codes of the city. Unfortunately, I think there's a good chance that the building of the mosque will result in a greater hatred and mockery against the Muslims. Americans will think, "Hey look, now the Muslims are trying to remove their guilt for the 9-11 attacks by building a mosque!"

If it wasn't a safety issue, it wouldn't really matter to build a mosque there. But, I think that Muslims going to that community center will become targets. There might even be protests from Islamophobes, and lots of unrest, and possibly even harm and danger to some lives. But again, I could be wrong because Americans might become more tolerant of the mosque as time goes on. I cannot predict the future.
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Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - July 27, 2011 at 5:31 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Tiberius - July 27, 2011 at 6:40 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by padraic - July 27, 2011 at 7:04 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - July 27, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Tiberius - July 27, 2011 at 6:53 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - July 27, 2011 at 7:03 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Tiberius - July 27, 2011 at 7:56 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - July 27, 2011 at 8:48 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Judas BentHer - July 27, 2011 at 10:08 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - July 28, 2011 at 4:20 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by padraic - July 28, 2011 at 5:34 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Tiberius - July 28, 2011 at 5:39 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - July 28, 2011 at 6:37 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by The Grand Nudger - July 28, 2011 at 7:00 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - July 28, 2011 at 7:01 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by DeistPaladin - July 28, 2011 at 11:01 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - July 28, 2011 at 11:41 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - July 28, 2011 at 1:19 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Autumnlicious - July 28, 2011 at 2:08 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Judas BentHer - July 28, 2011 at 4:55 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - July 28, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Judas BentHer - July 28, 2011 at 10:35 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Autumnlicious - July 28, 2011 at 5:35 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - July 29, 2011 at 3:23 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Rayaan - July 29, 2011 at 6:10 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - July 29, 2011 at 8:06 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Tiberius - July 29, 2011 at 9:05 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by LastPoet - July 29, 2011 at 10:20 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - July 29, 2011 at 12:18 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Tiberius - July 29, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - July 29, 2011 at 3:55 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by theVOID - August 2, 2011 at 6:10 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - August 2, 2011 at 11:05 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by theVOID - August 2, 2011 at 9:28 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Judas BentHer - July 29, 2011 at 8:26 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Autumnlicious - July 29, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - July 29, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Tiberius - July 29, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - July 29, 2011 at 4:46 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - July 29, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Tiberius - July 30, 2011 at 7:18 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Judas BentHer - July 31, 2011 at 12:26 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by padraic - July 30, 2011 at 11:09 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - July 30, 2011 at 11:18 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - July 31, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Rayaan - August 1, 2011 at 3:28 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - August 1, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by padraic - August 1, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - August 2, 2011 at 6:02 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Judas BentHer - August 1, 2011 at 7:54 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - August 1, 2011 at 7:57 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Judas BentHer - August 1, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by padraic - August 1, 2011 at 9:20 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by KichigaiNeko - August 2, 2011 at 5:51 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Judas BentHer - August 2, 2011 at 11:10 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by padraic - August 2, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - August 3, 2011 at 5:28 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Autumnlicious - August 2, 2011 at 6:45 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by padraic - August 2, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by padraic - August 2, 2011 at 6:46 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - August 2, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Tiberius - August 3, 2011 at 3:51 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Rayaan - August 3, 2011 at 4:08 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - August 3, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - August 3, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Judas BentHer - August 3, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by padraic - August 3, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Minimalist - August 3, 2011 at 7:46 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Napoléon - August 4, 2011 at 10:27 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Rayaan - August 7, 2011 at 7:30 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by fr0d0 - August 7, 2011 at 10:06 am
RE: Pat gets mad - by Rayaan - August 8, 2011 at 7:35 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by Rayaan - August 11, 2011 at 4:00 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by fr0d0 - August 11, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by The Grand Nudger - August 11, 2011 at 5:42 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by fr0d0 - August 11, 2011 at 6:42 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by The Grand Nudger - August 11, 2011 at 7:10 pm
RE: Pat gets mad - by fr0d0 - August 12, 2011 at 2:13 pm

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