White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville

[Brian37]

NO NO NO NO

Heather did not deserve to die because she didn't bring a weapon to counter protest, that is fucking absurd to even dare suggest such. Do not attempt to paint the two sides as equal. That is fucking nonsense. 

We are not at this point talking about protecting offensive speech. We are talking about a politician using vilification as a political tactic. Because of 5 years of that tactic we saw the results of that this weekend ending in the death of an innocent person. 

45 is responsible for this, those in the GOP who sat for 5 years and said nothing and used fake indignation, they helped him. 

You, "Please leave the people who have no involvement out of it"........ Nobody is talking about you the individual, but if you sit by while others who are part of the same party are involved in it, then you are complicit. Saying nothing is just as bad as doing it.

You have no right to get angry at those whom are angry at the right people, even if you are not doing it yourself.

This is the same bullshit we get from Muslims, "Most of us don't" and I agree, but it doesn't have to be all, but just enough.

So it is not my responsibility to coddle the insecurities of GOP politicians because they are afraid of losing votes. If you agree that bigotry is bad, don't bitch at me, you need to be demanding the GOP not coddle 45. And at this point he is far too damaged to remain in office.

We have seen political vilification in the head of a nation before. We have seen political scapegoating of multiple groups in a head of state before. Fortunately that asshole committed suicide in a bunker.

      Who said anything about Heather? If your questioning why I did not include the victim in my response. There was no point in doing so since it was an assumption of logic that people were hurt and or killed. She knew the risk of her actions even being there, yes it sad these animals would resort to such actions, but if you attend any type rally involving hate groups. You should know the risks with dealing with Neo_Nazis and members of the KKK. It's sparks like these will trigger a potentially armed conflict between groups. The best course of action to absolve yourself from any social responsibility is to see it for what it is.

     All they want is attention, their philosophy on how life should be has been under attack for quite sometime. But, something must be done though; if the full context of what they are saying is not given, of course their message will resonate among poor and or stupid people (primarily whites). As far as doing something about it, that would mean taking social responsibility. I personally do want to get involved in such a cluster fuck issue. If we're going to have freedom of speech, it takes a steady hand to safeguard and use it safely. The police and the FBI both failed to protect those twenty people from a mad man driving a vehicle driving into the counter protesters.

      You have those on the neutral side like me, then you have those who support Neo_Nazis and those who go against them. Whichever side you support, the more serious this gets, you will be dragged into it if you like it or not. When that day comes for me, I'm Anti-Nazi and KKK philosophy, if you have issue with me disagreeing with you. My final thought would be, let's not talk about this since I have no interest in what you have to offer.

She knew the risks? No nobody deserves to die especially when unarmed not looking for an armed conflict.

This is as bad as when the Pope said, "If you pick on someone's mother you should expect to be punched." 

Risk is when things are equal, not when a mob bullies those who have no intent on violence. 

Again, when you look at the footage the vast majority of those with shields and armor and even firearms were the alt right. 

Now again, please do not accuse me of not wanting to protect even offensive speech. I know what I say here offends theists. But we are NOT talking about merely offending here. We are talking about one man who injected political vilification into politics. Jim Crow is what you get when politicians do that. McCarthism is what you get when politicians do that. WW2 Germany is what you get when politicians do that. 

45 wasn't simply offending, and it wasn't even his place to do that anyway. There are different roles for the private sector than there is for a politician in a high seat of power. No, 45 wasn't doing the mere typical mudslinging we know has existed forever. NO, he added vilification and demagoguery and scapegoating IN A SEAT OF POWER, and not just with one person, but with multiple groups. 45 is not politics as normal.