RE: An argument against Adam and Eve
August 2, 2011 at 12:39 am
(This post was last modified: August 2, 2011 at 1:17 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Hmn lets see, a "serpent" that can move around without crawling on it's belly (it hasn't yet been cursed by god)...Now what do we call walking/flying "serpents", oh, that's right, dragons.
Nahash (Hebrew) [from nahash to whisper, hiss, prognosticate, practice divination] Serpent; a constellation -- the serpent or dragon in the northern quarter of the heavens (We call this Draco)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahash
I'll even suggest to you where they may have gotten such an idea in the first place (not that they need an origin for a dragon story, find me a culture without dragons):
http://www.bible-history.com/archaeology...arduk.html
perhaps even
http://www.northernway.org/hgoddess.html
(I find it very amusing to view the narrative in this light, of a Goddess cult luring away men from god, but hey, in the end I don't have a say in what this narrative actually means)
"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him" Rev 12:9
Even if you don't belong to a tradition that believes the serpent of Genesis is the devil he is still referred to as nahash, and dragon, in the same breath. In fact there are many different words one can find in the bible that mean serpent, dragon, monster, sea creature...and a whole host of other things, all at the same time. Nahash may actually be used as an adjective in some of these cases, and not a noun as the text seems to imply, rendering it's meaning to "hissing thing". We are again left with a walking, talking, sentient creature, that apparently has a habit of hissing (or at least whispering). Scripture does call it a serpent outright however, and in this case they clearly meant it as a noun. A walking, talking, sapient...serpent. A dragon. Just because your dragons have wings, and knights fight them out of their caves for hordes of treasure, doesn't mean everyone sees (or in this case saw) dragons in such a way. But hey, wtf do I know right buddy?
(What the hell is the deal here anyway, you can believe in everything that the text says, except when it says dragon? Is that where it becomes too fanciful for you? Well we all draw the line somewhere don't we?)
Nahash (Hebrew) [from nahash to whisper, hiss, prognosticate, practice divination] Serpent; a constellation -- the serpent or dragon in the northern quarter of the heavens (We call this Draco)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahash
I'll even suggest to you where they may have gotten such an idea in the first place (not that they need an origin for a dragon story, find me a culture without dragons):
http://www.bible-history.com/archaeology...arduk.html
perhaps even
http://www.northernway.org/hgoddess.html
(I find it very amusing to view the narrative in this light, of a Goddess cult luring away men from god, but hey, in the end I don't have a say in what this narrative actually means)
"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him" Rev 12:9
Even if you don't belong to a tradition that believes the serpent of Genesis is the devil he is still referred to as nahash, and dragon, in the same breath. In fact there are many different words one can find in the bible that mean serpent, dragon, monster, sea creature...and a whole host of other things, all at the same time. Nahash may actually be used as an adjective in some of these cases, and not a noun as the text seems to imply, rendering it's meaning to "hissing thing". We are again left with a walking, talking, sentient creature, that apparently has a habit of hissing (or at least whispering). Scripture does call it a serpent outright however, and in this case they clearly meant it as a noun. A walking, talking, sapient...serpent. A dragon. Just because your dragons have wings, and knights fight them out of their caves for hordes of treasure, doesn't mean everyone sees (or in this case saw) dragons in such a way. But hey, wtf do I know right buddy?
(What the hell is the deal here anyway, you can believe in everything that the text says, except when it says dragon? Is that where it becomes too fanciful for you? Well we all draw the line somewhere don't we?)
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