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A contradiction in the liberal view of gender
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RE: A contradiction in the liberal view of gender
(August 23, 2017 at 4:34 pm)shadow Wrote: Fair. I accept that's a moral view of the issue. But I don't think this ideology assumes transgender people are 'loonie' and 'batshit crazy'. Quite the opposite, actually. It assumes there is a legitimate rationale to their desire to change genders.
Sure, that they feel dysphoric in their arbitrarily assigned gender construct and that we have no reason to perpetuate or enforce this dysphoria.  It's arbitrary nature doesn't change anything about their dysphoria.  

Quote:adjective: arbitrary
  1. based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
I don't see how it's inconceivable I would use this word to mean a belief is invalid and unsupported.

Because you never set out to understand statement a in the first place.  You're looking for semantic equivalence, instead ..in order to manufacture a wedge because of, to put it bluntly, -other things that bother you-. Statement a refers to the arbitrary nature of gender as opposed to sex in that the gender a in one culture may conform to the gender b in another, and vv, and millions of permutations thereof. Nothing about gender uniformly or logically follows from peen/no peen. Nothing. Not even "x is the stronkgender". Nevertheless, these constructs exists and there are reasons for their existence (see: cultural)...further, these constructs are meaningful to people regardless of their arbitrary nature.

Meaningful enough to subject ones self to ridicule, ostracization, or worse, in conforming to them. Meaningful enough, even, to take steps to conform to them even when you were born with the culturally complimentary sexual equipment.
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Messages In This Thread
A contradiction in the liberal view of gender - by shadow - August 21, 2017 at 11:07 pm
RE: A contradiction in the liberal view of gender - by Losty - August 21, 2017 at 11:16 pm
RE: A contradiction in the liberal view of gender - by Losty - August 21, 2017 at 11:37 pm
RE: A contradiction in the liberal view of gender - by emjay - August 22, 2017 at 11:32 pm
RE: A contradiction in the liberal view of gender - by emjay - August 23, 2017 at 10:19 am
RE: A contradiction in the liberal view of gender - by emjay - August 23, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: A contradiction in the liberal view of gender - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2017 at 4:39 pm
RE: A contradiction in the liberal view of gender - by SaStrike - September 17, 2017 at 7:03 pm
RE: A contradiction in the liberal view of gender - by Amarok - September 17, 2017 at 7:33 pm

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