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God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(August 25, 2017 at 10:44 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Who am I to demand anything from God? But yeah, divine hiddenness is probably one of the more difficult theological problems. I guess the question in my mind is whether the things that are evident about the world give me sufficient reason to believe. I don't require certainty and maybe a fair amount of uncertainty is what makes it a true choice about whether or not to believe.

Only you can answer that question, sunshine. If, and only if, the answer is "Someone who believes in a GOOD, JUST, KIND, LOVING god", then you need not feel inclined to give any defense against this. If, however, you're the sort of naive asshat who wants to spin the whole flood thing into a pool party that just got a little out of control but good times were had by all while it lasted, then you'd better be goddamn well prepared to fucking answer.

A truly ultimately good god would create with no strings attached, no demand nor even encouragement of worship in return for a gift, for what is a gift if it's meant to be paid back? That's a loan, not a gift, see the difference (what am I saying, of course you fucking don't)? So clearly generosity is not Yahweh's forte nor priority. Not a good god by any stretch. Worship that only out of fear of fiery pitchforks if you must but don't dare claim love or comfort.

Also a truly ultimately good god would be humble enough to remain anonymous by rote, and not permit interpretations of itself to permeate its creation. It would be trivial for such a powerful creator being to simply eliminate that one little area of thought from the consciousness of its otherwise free-willed creatures. After all, it didn't give us longer lifespans, immunity from disease or the ability to breathe underwater, so it's not like omitting certain things isn't out of the question for it and still claiming (falsely as I have repeatedly proven) that we've got free will.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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