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An argument against Adam and Eve
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RE: An argument against Adam and Eve
(August 2, 2011 at 7:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: At what point then may the immaterial have an effect on the material?
Outside of God, our actions inspired by it.

(August 2, 2011 at 7:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "Purpose is a result, end, mean, aim, or goal of an action intentionally undertaken"

You have proof that this is an intentional undertaking? This is clearly the meaning of purpose which you are advocating. Or have I misread you, and you don't believe this existence to be intentional, and instead prefer some other meaning of purpose?
Sorry I can't find that quote on the page. Which are you talking about.. divine or personal intention??


(August 3, 2011 at 2:22 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(August 2, 2011 at 6:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Religion should be about the non material in my mind, but some people like to mix it up.

Then perhaps religion should stop making claims about the material world. Perhaps the religious should just abandon all of the arguments that hinge upon the material. Like Genesis, Miracles, Vicarious Salvation, Damnation, and Armageddon (off the top of my head), oh that's right, if they did that they wouldn't actually have any sort of traditional christianity whatsoever. I guess they could still call themselves christian though, couldn't they Frodo.
Accurately reading the text, without making it what you want it to mean, Genesis isn't about material creation. None of those things are of interest to science and the material world view. And Christianity hinges on them as metaphysical events. Ignoring the metaphysical is of no interest to Christians, nor the vast majority of other religious observances.
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An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - July 30, 2011 at 6:45 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 30, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 6:52 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Violet - July 30, 2011 at 7:17 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 30, 2011 at 7:22 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 9:04 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 9:08 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 7:14 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 2, 2011 at 6:34 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 8:58 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 2, 2011 at 9:08 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 4:27 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Violet - July 30, 2011 at 9:24 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by edk - July 30, 2011 at 7:26 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by padraic - July 30, 2011 at 7:54 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - July 30, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 30, 2011 at 7:50 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 8:01 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by BloodyHeretic - July 30, 2011 at 8:27 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - July 31, 2011 at 5:09 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - July 31, 2011 at 10:02 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by edk - July 31, 2011 at 6:48 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Kayenneh - July 31, 2011 at 7:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 9:19 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 31, 2011 at 10:03 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 11:23 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 31, 2011 at 2:40 pm
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RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - July 31, 2011 at 11:30 am
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RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - August 1, 2011 at 3:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anomalocaris - August 2, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 4:06 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by DeistPaladin - August 1, 2011 at 11:41 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 31, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 31, 2011 at 2:58 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - July 31, 2011 at 3:12 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 1, 2011 at 4:54 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 1, 2011 at 7:00 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 2, 2011 at 7:42 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 6:47 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Kayenneh - August 1, 2011 at 7:06 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 11:02 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - August 1, 2011 at 5:47 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 1, 2011 at 11:36 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 2, 2011 at 12:02 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 2, 2011 at 1:15 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 1:36 am
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RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anymouse - August 13, 2011 at 6:40 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 3, 2011 at 2:27 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2011 at 12:39 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 2:58 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 3, 2011 at 3:22 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 4:03 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 3, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 3, 2011 at 5:23 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 4:53 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 3, 2011 at 11:35 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 4, 2011 at 4:00 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 4, 2011 at 4:12 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 5, 2011 at 1:13 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Captain Scarlet - August 13, 2011 at 2:28 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 4, 2011 at 4:40 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anymouse - August 2, 2011 at 6:57 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2011 at 11:24 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 6:22 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 3, 2011 at 3:08 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Violet - August 3, 2011 at 2:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 3, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2011 at 3:55 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 5, 2011 at 1:35 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 5, 2011 at 1:39 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - August 13, 2011 at 4:49 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Emanuel - August 13, 2011 at 5:24 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - August 13, 2011 at 5:46 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Tiberius - August 13, 2011 at 6:21 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 13, 2011 at 7:36 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 14, 2011 at 3:20 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by padraic - August 15, 2011 at 2:15 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anymouse - August 15, 2011 at 5:40 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by DeistPaladin - August 15, 2011 at 9:01 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2011 at 3:02 pm
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RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2011 at 9:14 am
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