RE: Pat gets mad
August 3, 2011 at 5:28 am
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2011 at 5:42 am by Napoléon.)
(August 2, 2011 at 6:39 pm)padraic Wrote:Quote:Well I'm sorry pad, but I think it's you who is ignorant to what Islam actually is. Are you not aware that it's every muslim's duty to wage jihad?
Nappy, have you actually read the Q'uran? I have.How much time have you spent at university studying Islam? (I spent about a year) How many Muslim countries have you actually visited,let alone lived in?
Bits and bobs. I haven't read the whole thing because those bit's I have read just seem mumbo jumbo and distorted. Don't see how this is relevant.
Why would I want to spend a year studying Islam? It's boring as hell, and again, I don't need to study every single page in it to have an opinion on it. I think I know enough. (but again, if you think I'm wrong please by all means STATE WHY, because so far we have another person asserting that I'm somehow ignorant without actually demonstrating HOW, thanks).
And seen as I see muslims on pretty much a daily basis, living in birmingham for 18 years, one of the largest muslim communities in europe, I would humorously say that I live in a muslim country (ok maybe city). Also someone in my family was in a relationship with a muslim girl for 6 years and was on the verge of muslim marraige, someone I knew very well even visiting her home country Iran. You see, I can argue from authority too. None of what you just said is relevant.
Quote:Yes, I'm an ignorant man,but less than most non Muslims about Islam.Sadly, with your fatuous comment about jihad,you show your own willful ignorance.In context that means you are unwilling to listen or learn from anyone who may know what he's is talking about if he differs from your prejudices..
Oh please. Do not take me for a fucking fool. You think somehow that what I said was wrong? Well? Fucking demonstrate it. How on earth was my comment about jihad fatuous? It IS every muslims duty to undertake jihad to the best of my knowledge, and if YOU say I'm wrong then YOU provide some reasoning as to why. You can't just throw out calling someone fatuous and not back it up, that in itself is fucking fatuous.
Then you go on to say I'm unwilling to listen and learn? HA!
Maybe if you actually provided something I could listen to with regards to the video or anything I have said then that would be good. Because like I've said, you are just asserting things without proving it. You sound an awful lot like some self righteous christian.
If you can back up what you say and prove me wrong on my jihad comment then I'll accept it. So please go ahead.
Quote:If if you ask him nicely, Rayaan may take the time to explain the meaning of "jihad" to you. I can't be bothered wasting my time .
I have nothing further to say to on this topic.
What? You're leaving? Right when we were in the middle of an argument? I win by default then

As it happens Rayaan hasn't expressed to me any contention over my use of the word Jihad. Only you. If you supposedly can't be bothered then don't put your fingers on the keyboard in the first place.
Seriously Paddy, I at least thought that if you were going to assert someone as ignorant then you wouldn't be ignorant enough to think that you could just say that, then run away and not back it up. I am dissapoint.