RE: An argument against Adam and Eve
August 3, 2011 at 9:39 am
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2011 at 10:11 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Outside of god? What is that shorthand for Frodo? You linked me the page, don't tell me you didn't actually read it? Aren't you simply rephrasing your argument here, in support of your argument? Give me something, show me why I should believe that the immaterial even exists Frodo.
If your assumption that religion concerns the immaterial is true. At what point can we look at something and say "There it is, the immaterial world interacting with the material world". If there is no such point, then what, exactly, is the immaterial world superceding here, in the material word? If you want religion to be immaterial, then claims of a material nature would need to be removed from your belief system. They would, at the very least, have to be plainly restated as metaphor. If you are arguing that the metaphor of god is somehow true, I may argue with you on what that metaphor is, exactly, but are we even talking about a god at that point, or are we discussing a metaphor? What distinguishes god from an imaginary friend who gives you advice? Then, how do you make value judgements as to which type of imaginary friend is the type that one should be imagining. Why not a pagan god, why indeed, a god at all?
Also, GC you have any evidence of god, or perhaps evidence of his love? We're on pins and needles. Endless parade of baseless shit, I won't give you a pass on it either, because I refuse to accept any claims to ignorance that are so severe. I know you have some level of education, and just by being here, chatting it up with us, you've demonstrated that you are capable of reasoning. Now do it. Make all of your arguments worth a shit in one single act of brilliance. Provide evidence.
(edited as an attempt to remain civil, and for clarity)
If your assumption that religion concerns the immaterial is true. At what point can we look at something and say "There it is, the immaterial world interacting with the material world". If there is no such point, then what, exactly, is the immaterial world superceding here, in the material word? If you want religion to be immaterial, then claims of a material nature would need to be removed from your belief system. They would, at the very least, have to be plainly restated as metaphor. If you are arguing that the metaphor of god is somehow true, I may argue with you on what that metaphor is, exactly, but are we even talking about a god at that point, or are we discussing a metaphor? What distinguishes god from an imaginary friend who gives you advice? Then, how do you make value judgements as to which type of imaginary friend is the type that one should be imagining. Why not a pagan god, why indeed, a god at all?
Also, GC you have any evidence of god, or perhaps evidence of his love? We're on pins and needles. Endless parade of baseless shit, I won't give you a pass on it either, because I refuse to accept any claims to ignorance that are so severe. I know you have some level of education, and just by being here, chatting it up with us, you've demonstrated that you are capable of reasoning. Now do it. Make all of your arguments worth a shit in one single act of brilliance. Provide evidence.
(edited as an attempt to remain civil, and for clarity)
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