(September 7, 2017 at 3:13 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(September 7, 2017 at 3:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I am well aware that you are a former Catholic. And one that has proven time and time again to be very ignorant of your former faith. You should understand the differences between doctrines that are dogmatic and those that aren't, and the revisions of Vatican II. It's pretty basic stuff dude. Even the Poe who started this thread knew better than you.
Well, let's try another:
Quote:Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff. (Unam Sanctam, Pope Boniface VIII - November 18, 1302)
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/bon08/b8unam.htm
Still not convinced? How about this one, from the Fifth Lateran Council in 1512:
Quote:Moreover, since subjection to the Roman pontiff is necessary for salvation for all Christ’s faithful, as we are taught by the testimony of both sacred scripture and the holy fathers, and as is declared by the constitution of pope Boniface VIII of happy memory, also our predecessor, which begins Unam sanctam, we therefore, with the approval of the present sacred council, for the salvation of the souls of the same faithful, for the supreme authority of the Roman pontiff and of this holy see, and for the unity and power of the church, his spouse, renew and give our approval to that constitution, but without prejudice to the declaration of pope Clement V of holy memory, which begins Meruit.
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/ecum18.htm
Ignorant of the Catholic Faith??? Ignorant of words, that you are.
Lol, are you being serious?
First you pulled something from the year 1442, and after explaining to you why/how that is no longer a position being held, you then pull from the years 1302 and 1512. I mean, what the ef?
Again, you are continuing to completely ignore the differences between doctrines that are dogmatic and those that are not, as well as completely disregarding the revisions of Vatican II. You are claiming that the Church still holds a position that it simply does not. At first I'd say you were just ignorant. But after explaining to you and having you come back with the same bull shit, I'm now tempted to just say you're kinda dumb...
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh