(September 7, 2017 at 5:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(September 7, 2017 at 3:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Lol, are you being serious?
First you pulled something from the year 1442, and after explaining to you why/how that is no longer a position being held, you then pull from the years 1302 and 1512. I mean, what the ef?
Again, you are continuing to completely ignore the differences between doctrines that are dogmatic and those that are not, as well as completely disregarding the revisions of Vatican II. You are claiming that the Church still holds a position that it simply does not. At first I'd say you were just ignorant. But after explaining to you and having you come back with the same bull shit, I'm now tempted to just say you're kinda dumb...
Well, I am in good company then! This guy must have been a complete moron:
Quote:According to Wisdom 11:11, "By what things a man sinneth, by the same also he should be punished" [Vulgate: 'he is tormented']. Now a schismatic, as shown above (Article 1), commits a twofold sin: first by separating himself from communion with the members of the Church, and in this respect the fitting punishment for schismatics is that they be excommunicated. Secondly, they refuse submission to the head of the Church, wherefore, since they are unwilling to be controlled by the Church's spiritual power, it is just that they should be compelled by the secular power. (Saint Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica II II, 39, 4)
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/3039.htm
Oh good, something from the year 1200. You're getting warmer.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
