RE: An argument against Adam and Eve
August 4, 2011 at 9:12 am
(This post was last modified: August 4, 2011 at 10:19 am by The Grand Nudger.)
It's not up to me to define a test to validate your theory. It was a rhetorical question in any case (your theory has already been tested to fucking death, that's why we don't claim that the supernatural exists). Your position is one that you have assumed over the years to absolve yourself of any responsibility to prove it to be accurate. Not my problem. Don't get me wrong Frodo, I like your religion, but it's still bullshit until you have some sort of evidence to offer up.
Whats amusing, is that you seem unwilling to definitively point to areas where your bullshit world engaged the real world. You stand for nothing. You argue for the deists god, and call it Christ. Good luck with that.
"The result can only be physical, and the explanation physical"
Excellent, you've just ruled out miracles existence. There would be a natural explanation, there is not. Is this then evidence that the material did not interact with the immaterial with regards to miracles? Of course not, not to you. It's not important to you that your statements have any consistency whatsoever. Only that they end with the word God.
(GC, you're not going to let Frodo get away with stripping god of creation are you btw? Or is that one of those tiny differences that doesn't matter? He did it in this very thread no less. Pick up the banner buddy, defend your god against the heathens.)
By the way Frodo, things like Genesis were only metaphysical when they were proposed, in the last few thousand years, we've gained the ability to test them empirically. Genesis is not speaking to some immaterial truth, it is a very material flight of fancy. I understand that you very much want it to be something more, but that leaves you in the undesirable position of requiring at least one more assumption than I do. You have to assume they didn't mean exactly what they said. Evidence? You can't provide it I know, because of that wall in your mind that separates the two worlds. You put yourself in this position. I know you don't believe exactly that of course, since you insist that the two worlds can meet, but seem to be unable to point to a specific place or time where it did. The reasoning that you have decided to employ to win an argument, leaves you no room to verify your own proposition. Deliciously twisted process. When asked to provide evidence, you say there can be none,of course you have still drawn conclusions. Conclusions made in the absence of evidence are factually meaningless.
Whats amusing, is that you seem unwilling to definitively point to areas where your bullshit world engaged the real world. You stand for nothing. You argue for the deists god, and call it Christ. Good luck with that.
"The result can only be physical, and the explanation physical"
Excellent, you've just ruled out miracles existence. There would be a natural explanation, there is not. Is this then evidence that the material did not interact with the immaterial with regards to miracles? Of course not, not to you. It's not important to you that your statements have any consistency whatsoever. Only that they end with the word God.
(GC, you're not going to let Frodo get away with stripping god of creation are you btw? Or is that one of those tiny differences that doesn't matter? He did it in this very thread no less. Pick up the banner buddy, defend your god against the heathens.)
By the way Frodo, things like Genesis were only metaphysical when they were proposed, in the last few thousand years, we've gained the ability to test them empirically. Genesis is not speaking to some immaterial truth, it is a very material flight of fancy. I understand that you very much want it to be something more, but that leaves you in the undesirable position of requiring at least one more assumption than I do. You have to assume they didn't mean exactly what they said. Evidence? You can't provide it I know, because of that wall in your mind that separates the two worlds. You put yourself in this position. I know you don't believe exactly that of course, since you insist that the two worlds can meet, but seem to be unable to point to a specific place or time where it did. The reasoning that you have decided to employ to win an argument, leaves you no room to verify your own proposition. Deliciously twisted process. When asked to provide evidence, you say there can be none,of course you have still drawn conclusions. Conclusions made in the absence of evidence are factually meaningless.
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