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This Is An Interesting Question
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RE: This Is An Interesting Question
(September 20, 2017 at 5:06 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(September 20, 2017 at 4:32 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The internet existed before the www. It was civilianized before then as well. Calling it a British invention is silly. The www is the refinement. The guy who invented the automatic transmission doesn't get credit for inventing the automobile as well.

ETA: Both the solid-state and integrated circuit were American inventions as well, iirc.

Well .

Quote:The idea of integrating electronic circuits into a single device was born when the German physicist and engineer Werner Jacobi (de) developed and patented the first known integrated transistor amplifier in 1949 and the British radio engineer Geoffrey Dummer proposed to integrate a variety of standard electronic components in a monolithic semiconductor crystal in 1952. A year later, Harwick Johnson filed a patent for a prototype integrated circuit (IC).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_...ed_circuit



Quote:The ARPAnet opened in 1969 and was quickly usurped by civilian computer nerds who had now found a way to share the few great computers that existed at that time.

Father of the Internet Tim Berners-Lee


Tim Berners-Lee was the man leading the development of the World Wide Web (with help of course), the defining of HTML (hypertext markup language) used to create web pages, HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) and URLs (Universal Resource Locators). All of those developments took place between 1989 and 1991.

https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-the...et-1992007


Quote:first solid-state device was the "cat's whisker" detector, first used in 1906 radio receivers.[7] A whisker-like wire is placed lightly in contact with a solid crystal (such as a germanium crystal) in order to detect a radio signal by the contact junction effect.[8] The solid-state device came into its own with the invention of the transistor in 1947
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_electronics

But as I said in my final comment .All this itself had components that had components so even my counter points are moot . And as I said that comment was in response to the idea we would not have this site if America had not invented the internet . Does or does this site use WWW. or not?

I stand corrected on the first point (hence the "iirc" in my post) -- however, a solid-state amplifier is a far cry from any computer. Your second link only supports what I'm saying. In the third, I was referring to the computer-useful transistor, and I should have been more specific. The solid-state stuff patented in the 20s was neither useful in any immediate sense, nor are they used in data processing:

Quote:Having unearthed Lilienfeld’s patents that went into obscurity years earlier, lawyers at Bell Labs advised against Shockley's proposal because the idea of a field-effect transistor that used an electric field as a "grid" was not new. Instead, what Bardeen, Brattain, and Shockley invented in 1947 was the first point-contact transistor.[10] In acknowledgement of this accomplishment, Shockley, Bardeen, and Brattain were jointly awarded the 1956 Nobel Prize in Physics "for their researches on semiconductors and their discovery of the transistor effect".[16]

Your hard-on against crediting Americans is duly noted.

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This Is An Interesting Question - by Minimalist - September 17, 2017 at 11:40 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by bennyboy - September 17, 2017 at 11:35 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by I_am_not_mafia - September 18, 2017 at 2:14 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by pocaracas - September 18, 2017 at 9:03 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Catholic_Lady - September 20, 2017 at 5:37 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Minimalist - September 17, 2017 at 11:50 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by vorlon13 - September 18, 2017 at 2:58 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by ignoramus - September 18, 2017 at 3:55 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Whateverist - September 18, 2017 at 4:45 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Thumpalumpacus - September 18, 2017 at 7:35 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by I_am_not_mafia - September 18, 2017 at 7:55 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Rev. Rye - September 18, 2017 at 9:33 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by brewer - September 18, 2017 at 10:07 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Thumpalumpacus - September 18, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by brewer - September 18, 2017 at 10:47 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Whateverist - September 19, 2017 at 10:17 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Minimalist - September 18, 2017 at 11:24 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Rev. Rye - September 18, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by pocaracas - September 18, 2017 at 11:40 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Rev. Rye - September 18, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Minimalist - September 18, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by pocaracas - September 18, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Pat Mustard - September 19, 2017 at 8:10 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Minimalist - September 18, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Thumpalumpacus - September 18, 2017 at 7:52 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Fireball - September 18, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Fireball - September 19, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by bennyboy - September 19, 2017 at 7:58 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2017 at 8:03 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by pocaracas - September 19, 2017 at 8:17 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by vorlon13 - September 18, 2017 at 9:03 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Amarok - September 18, 2017 at 11:35 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by bennyboy - September 19, 2017 at 6:40 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Minimalist - September 19, 2017 at 11:25 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Amarok - September 19, 2017 at 4:31 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Thumpalumpacus - September 20, 2017 at 9:35 am
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Amarok - September 20, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Thumpalumpacus - September 20, 2017 at 3:56 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Amarok - September 20, 2017 at 4:09 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Thumpalumpacus - September 20, 2017 at 4:32 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Amarok - September 20, 2017 at 5:06 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Thumpalumpacus - September 20, 2017 at 7:34 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Minimalist - September 20, 2017 at 4:25 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Amarok - September 20, 2017 at 4:29 pm
RE: This Is An Interesting Question - by Minimalist - September 20, 2017 at 6:19 pm

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