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Mass extinction date set by science.
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RE: Mass extinction date set by science.
(September 25, 2017 at 10:58 am)Lutrinae Wrote:
(September 25, 2017 at 10:30 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: I have no idea what article you're referring to, but it sounds like complete bullshit. 

There is no doubt that some of the harm we done is irreversible (extinctions of taxa) and some of it may even be irreparable (long-lasting ecosystem damage), but that doesn't mean our extinction is now inevitable in the immediate or near future. Our species can't survive forever, but that doesn't give us a valid excuse to throw our hands up and quit. "Fuck it, someone wrote an article saying we are screwed, so let's just go with it."

I've been searching for the article, might take a while.

In the meantime, I shall leave you with this: color me a pessimistic realist in relation to preventing an approaching mass extinction.

I had already painted you as a pessimist. So no worries there.

As for "preventing an approaching mass extinction," 2 things: 1) we have already caused a mass extinction (and this mass extinction of charismatic megafauna is, geologically speaking, something that is ongoing), so no, we can't avoid what has already happened. 2) I am not discussing whether or not one can avoid a mass extinction, but whether or not an individual species can indeed survive one. And every mass extinction ever recorded, has taxa that survived for one reason or another. So there is literally no reason to presume that humans can't be one of the organisms that survives any future extinction event (even if we are the trigger and primary driving mechanism)

(September 25, 2017 at 11:04 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(September 25, 2017 at 10:28 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: Okay, and? Past failures don't predict future failures nor do they prove that we can't stop our own self-inflicted extinction.

Seriously? Have a nice day.

Yeah, seriously. Taxa come and go. Species rise and fall. But even in mass extinction events, some taxa survive. Why would the most intelligent species known to exist that is capable of technologically innovating a solution and/or response to change, not be capable of surviving?

*Mass extinction does not (and never has) mean that all species go extinct. And typically, extinctions are not random. Meaning that species that do go extinct tend to share common traits and/or live in similar environments.





edit to add: The greatest threat to our species may not be from the uninformed and scientifically illiterate, but from the intelligent people who could effect change but choose not to do so
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Mass extinction date set by science. - by ignoramus - September 21, 2017 at 1:35 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by vorlon13 - September 21, 2017 at 1:45 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by ignoramus - September 21, 2017 at 1:58 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Minimalist - September 21, 2017 at 2:00 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Aroura - September 21, 2017 at 2:09 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Thumpalumpacus - September 21, 2017 at 2:22 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Sal - September 21, 2017 at 4:40 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Succubus - September 21, 2017 at 5:54 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by bennyboy - September 21, 2017 at 6:06 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 21, 2017 at 6:24 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Cyberman - September 21, 2017 at 9:04 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Minimalist - September 21, 2017 at 11:45 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Cyberman - September 21, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Minimalist - September 25, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by chimp3 - September 21, 2017 at 5:24 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by LadyForCamus - September 21, 2017 at 9:14 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by I_am_not_mafia - September 21, 2017 at 5:33 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Aroura - September 21, 2017 at 5:39 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by I_am_not_mafia - September 21, 2017 at 6:30 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 21, 2017 at 6:34 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Brian37 - September 21, 2017 at 9:26 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 21, 2017 at 9:32 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Court Jester - September 21, 2017 at 9:57 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by vorlon13 - September 21, 2017 at 11:20 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 21, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Aroura - September 21, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Jackalope - September 21, 2017 at 1:03 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Minimalist - September 21, 2017 at 12:06 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 21, 2017 at 12:08 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Aroura - September 21, 2017 at 12:11 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Minimalist - September 21, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Jehanne - September 25, 2017 at 7:16 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by brewer - September 25, 2017 at 8:57 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 25, 2017 at 9:58 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 25, 2017 at 9:58 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 25, 2017 at 10:15 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 25, 2017 at 10:17 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 25, 2017 at 10:20 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 25, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Silver - September 25, 2017 at 10:23 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 25, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Silver - September 25, 2017 at 10:28 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 25, 2017 at 10:30 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Silver - September 25, 2017 at 10:58 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 25, 2017 at 11:06 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 25, 2017 at 10:26 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 25, 2017 at 10:28 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 25, 2017 at 11:04 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Silver - September 25, 2017 at 9:04 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Cyberman - September 25, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Silver - September 25, 2017 at 9:55 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Cyberman - September 25, 2017 at 10:03 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Silver - September 25, 2017 at 10:06 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by downbeatplumb - September 30, 2017 at 6:35 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 25, 2017 at 11:11 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 25, 2017 at 11:13 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 25, 2017 at 11:18 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 25, 2017 at 11:34 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Silver - September 25, 2017 at 11:35 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by TheBeardedDude - September 25, 2017 at 11:41 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Cyberman - September 25, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Minimalist - September 25, 2017 at 11:38 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by dyresand - September 28, 2017 at 11:26 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Fake Messiah - September 29, 2017 at 3:05 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Aroura - September 29, 2017 at 6:08 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by dyresand - September 29, 2017 at 4:22 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Edwardo Piet - September 29, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2017 at 5:33 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by dyresand - September 30, 2017 at 1:52 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Cyberman - September 30, 2017 at 10:18 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Edwardo Piet - September 30, 2017 at 8:08 pm
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Fake Messiah - October 26, 2017 at 12:19 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Minimalist - October 26, 2017 at 12:46 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Fake Messiah - October 26, 2017 at 4:54 am
RE: Mass extinction date set by science. - by Fake Messiah - October 29, 2017 at 1:33 am

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