(September 29, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote:Quote:How is someone supposed to "get" some idea you have, if you can't clearly and accurately communicate it?
Personally, I thought my sight analogy works very well to get my point across even though it might not be a perfect analogy. We can still use analogies and metaphors to get our points across even though they might not be perfect. They just have to be good enough to get our point across.
(September 29, 2017 at 1:30 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Oh, will you..lol? I tell you I'm not enlightened...and your response is..."yes you are"? Who do you think might be in a better position, between the two of us, to tell you whether or not your comments have somehow enlightened me?
Except when it doesn't, or when it does precisely the opposite, ofc.
Well, I'm not feeling that after having read what you wrote, despite already being capable of perceiving good value and beauty....so..........
Without this inner light (our positive emotions), then your life can only amount to nothing. Even without the light of god within us, acknowledging the values of things and situations would still be vital in order for you to make wise decisions. But that can never replace the inner light which means our lives would still be empty without it. The lives and artistic endeavors of genius artists who didn't have this inner light would also have amounted to nothing. It doesn't matter how many magnificent goals they've achieved. The inner light is the ultimate thing and nothing can replace it. Without it, then you have nothing. Remember, this religious worldview of mine could also take on a secular form as well if we are living in a purely naturalistic universe where there is no god, afterlife, or paranormal. If it were to take on a secular form, rather than saying that our positive emotions are the inner light of god and that our lives would be empty without his inner light, we would instead say that our positive emotions are simply things we need. Otherwise, our lives would be empty.
Some would say that pleasure without meaning is empty. Is 'meaningfulness' an emotion? I don't think so. Regardless, studies have shown that people who are depressed have a more realistic assessment of things than those who are happy. This seems anathema to your claim that positive emotions are foundational to identifying objectively positive values.
Beyond that, I just don't get what it is you are on about. Good emotions feel good. Bad emotions feel bad. Got it. So what?
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