(September 29, 2017 at 4:45 pm)Hammy Wrote:(September 29, 2017 at 4:41 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: If you're rude, so am I, because I don't see how you're rude at all.
Emotional difficulties does not equate to the R word. Shame on you for even thinking that.
Oh I wasn't being serious about being an R-Tard. This is kind of my point. I'm rarely serious. Serious is no fun.
And even though I don't believe in emotions... I do believe in fun. I think enjoyment and liking something is more fundamental than categorizing that enjoyment into an emotion. It's easy for me to know I like/dislike something. But knowing what emotion I am feeling feels like an impossible task.
I was rude at some point earlier. I forget what I said. But I was.
It's sad really because TD will find an intelligent and challenging conversation with me. I am well read in philosophy. But my silliness makes many people have assumptions about me.
And yet when I talk about the differences between the phenomenal world and the noumenal world people get bored to death.
I was currently focused on the discussion me and Khemikal were having. If you are willing to have this type of discussion, then I would be glad to have it.
(September 29, 2017 at 4:49 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(September 29, 2017 at 4:41 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: There were two categories I pointed out. The 1st category was the thought form of value judgments. These are value judgments that come about through our way of thinking such as thinking that it is a good day today or thinking something is horrible. The 2nd category of value judgments would be the emotional value judgments. These value judgments are the emotions themselves. If you felt a positive emotion, then that is always a good emotional value judgment and if you felt a negative emotion, then that is always a bad emotional value judgment. I have already explained this earlier in that post. So, I am still not clear on what the problem here is.
No amount of reassertion will make any of the above true by fiat. I -know- that you proposed as much....you've done it more than once, I was there....I've commented.
I'm awaiting an example that shows that this proposed division between thought and emotion actually exists. Awaiting an example of a value judgement that is void of one or the other and possessed by someone, awaiting an example of a person who does not possess one or the other.
I'm awaiting some indication that your premise is sound....not asking for a reassertion.
Beyond that - regardless of whether or not there are such disparate categories in actuality, I possess both...like we all do, and yet I am not experiencing what you say I will - nor is the rest of humanity reporting such a phenomena......obviously something is amiss.........
Hammy, hold my beer, I gotta go smoke.
You could have a positive emotion which is a good emotional value judgment while, at the same time, having a thought form of a good value judgment. I have never said that it would always be a situation where you would only have one or the other. However, there are times where you can have just one or the other. If you were in a mindless state and did not judge anything as good or bad while feeling bliss from a drug, then this would be an example of having an emotional good value judgment and not having any thought form of value judgment. Another example would be if you had a mental condition known as anhedonia which does not allow you to feel positive emotions. You could think that your life is good, but you would only be having a thought form of a good value judgment without the emotional good value judgment.