Emotions are intrinsically good and bad

[Transcended Dimensions]

You could have a positive emotion which is a good emotional value judgment while, at the same time, having a thought form of a good value judgment.  I have never said that it would always be a situation where you would only have one or the other.  However, there are times where you can have just one or the other.

What times, about what?

If you were in a mindless state and did not judge anything as good or bad while feeling bliss from a drug, then this would be an example of having an emotional good value judgment and not having any thought form of value judgment.

If I'm feeling emotion I'm not in a mindless state.  That's just a term of art. You still haven't given me any reason to assume that my thoughts and my emotions are a different thing.  I'm asking for an example, not a reassertion.

 Another example would be if you had a mental condition known as anhedonia which does not allow you to feel positive emotions.  You could think that your life is good, but you would only be having a thought form of a good value judgment without the emotional good value judgment.

You're playing fast and loose with anhedonia....but if the only people to whom your worldview applies or might even be conceptually useful are people with that condition........nothing you can say will change that for them.  No amount of thinking happy thoughts will suddenly mean that they feel pleasure.  I agree, that's no way to live...most of us don't.

Meanwhile, I'm still right here, not suffering from anhedonia...still possessing positive value judgements and associated positive feelings........and still not hearing the voices of the angels..TD......

You could feel a positive emotion such as a feeling of excitement from the idea of going to the carnival while, at the same time, thinking it is a good idea to not go to that carnival.  Also, thoughts and emotions are a different thing.  A thought is just an idea or some words going through your mind while emotions would be euphoric and dysphoric states such as feelings of sexual arousal (a euphoric state) or a feeling of hopelessness or misery (a dysphoric state).

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I was currently focused on the discussion me and Khemikal were having.  If you are willing to have this type of discussion, then I would be glad to have it.

YAY! Yes please. I would like that very much. Please forgive me for my childish "YAY!" I do seem to have always come across as having multiple personalities. I'm normally like this. Some would say I was 'larger than life' others would say I was a 'weirdo'.

Anyway, I'd like to start by asking the following:

What is your opinion with regards to my position that if positive emotions are truly intrinsic goodness ™ and if negative emotions truly are intrinsic badness ™ but we also assume that a more intense positive emotion is better than a less intense positive emotion, and a more intense negative emotion is worse than a less intense negative emotion -- then doesn't this lead to your whole theory eventually reducing to an Reductio Ad Absurdum whereby the goal is to have ANY positive emotion, and you don't even need more than one, as long as it's as intense as possible. Say the emotion of ecstasy, euphoria, or bliss. And the idea is to stay in that state as much as possible. Which isn't realistically functional in the real world. And doesn't your theory also lead to the absurd converse -- the idea being to never have ANY negative emotion.... even when things like fear and anger are often very normal and healthy reactions to threats?

Again, making wise decisions is still vital even without any emotions or the respective emotion to allow you to see good and bad values like how a sighted person would visualize colors. So, if your goal was to not have the most intense positive emotion of your life for only one moment and to instead have positive emotions throughout your life, then such a wise decision would still be recommended.