RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
September 29, 2017 at 7:49 pm
(This post was last modified: September 29, 2017 at 7:51 pm by Transcended Dimensions.)
(September 29, 2017 at 7:43 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(September 29, 2017 at 7:36 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: You are jumping to conclusions such as that I am speaking nonsense, making contradictions, etc. If you read my entire discussion, then you would have more insight into my worldview. I just don't like it when people just jump to conclusions about me and my worldview rather than taking the time to thoroughly look it over.
I'm not jumping to the conclusion that you are speaking nonsense. We are now like 15 pages into this thread, and I've attempted to address the (pretty simple) semantics of applying objective terms to subjective experiences. So I've slowly, and with due diligence, arrived at the conclusion that you are speaking nonsense.
If you think that displeasure is intrinsically bad, then that means you value feelings more than results, since it's been pointed out to you that negative feelings lead to good results, and that the negative feelings are therefore in fact good.
It is for this reason that I have inferred that you don't have real-life goals which matter much. When I have stress at work, I bust my ass, I solve problems, I get my job done, and I feed my family. I fucking hate the feeling of stress, but I'm glad that my children are healthy and well-fed. When I was 20 on welfare, and my most difficult task was remembering to return books to the library on time, stress was largely self-inflicted: this girl doesn't like me after all, that dude keeps beating me at chess-- there just wasn't enough value in the negative motivation. So I'd meditate my suffering away, and trip my way down Main Street with a twinkle in my eye.
But now I have a life.
But the reason why I have said to not jump to the conclusion that I am speaking nonsense is because I am still in the process of figuring out and working out my whole worldview so that it becomes clear to others. You are also dismissing my personal experience. During my worst miserable moments, I have thought that the idea of getting the help I needed was something good, but that goodness was completely empty in my life. I was still living the worst life. This has to prove that goodness goes beyond our thoughts. It has to be the positive emotions themselves. I am still in the process of working and figuring this one out, too because, if positive emotions were the only things that were good in life, then we wouldn't be able to judge other things we didn't feel a positive emotion from as being good in the first place.