Emotions are intrinsically good and bad

[Edwardo Piet]

Okay fair enough. But it sounds to me that you are saying positive emotions are a necessary but not sufficient condition for a good life. Because positive emotions aren't enough without moderation and wisdom.

But you are also saying that the other values are useless without positive emotions.

Positive emotions can't be intrinsically good if they're not good enough in and of themselves though, TD. Because that's what intrinsically good means.

When I said that other values are "dead," then does that imply that they do not exist without our emotions?  I said that, during my worst miserable times, that even thoughts of good value were completely "dead" in my life.  So, is that implying that there is no good without positive emotions?  If so, then religious doctrines also make the claim that there is no good without god and, yet, people are still making choices to help themselves and others anyway.  I seriously wish to know how these religious doctrines address this seemingly contradiction.  Because, by having the answer, that might also address this contradiction my worldview has as well.

Okay well we can continue our debate when you start being relevant and actually addressing my points. You still haven't answered my argument yet.