RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 14, 2017 at 5:59 pm
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2017 at 7:29 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(October 11, 2017 at 10:52 am)Transcended Dimensions Wrote:(October 9, 2017 at 1:46 am)Hammy Wrote: You are so confused. You can't make your mind up what your frigging position is.
Now, I would like to ask you a question. You said that we need a state of mind that possesses a positive quality to it to truly make our lives good and beautiful and that the belief of your life being good and beautiful simply isn't enough as long as you do not possess that positive quality. Therefore, could you present me the articles/evidence that present this?
Not required. If consciousness and phenomenology were not present there would be no observer present to value anything in the first place. Consciousness is all we ultimately care about.... as even materialistic objects only matter when they can impact on our own or someone else's consciousness. There is no morality or value in a universe that consists of nothing but rocks.
(October 14, 2017 at 7:32 am)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: 1.) Emotions themselves are value judgments. Positive emotions are always good emotional value judgments and negative emotions are always bad emotional value judgments.
2.) Emotions are qualities. They are a quality of euphoria and dysphoria and they are also a quality of a good or bad emotional value judgment. Not only are emotions simply value judgments of good and bad, but they are also profoundly beautiful or profoundly horrible value judgments that take on various tones, atmospheres, and personalities. For example, you can judge, through your thinking, a certain character and his/her traits and personalities.
But so can your emotions which means the emotions take on the attributes of this character. But like I was saying, since a good emotional value judgment is synonymous with a positive emotion, then positive emotions are a quality of good just as how having water inside a glass is having a real quality of water inside that glass. Likewise, negative emotions would have to be the quality of bad.
This here is in earnest by far the best stuff you've ever written. No sarcasm. I wish other things you have said were of this quality. After making points such as this it is a shame that you are leaving (you said you will only make one more (set of) point(s) and I took that as you now learning the forums Which is rather sad considering you said a lot of confused and inconsistent B.S. at fist but points like this are a drastic, drastic improvement. And I love improvement.).
Although with regards to the part I quoted I disagree with the part I crossed out.