RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 14, 2017 at 9:42 pm
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2017 at 9:56 pm by Transcended Dimensions.)
(October 14, 2017 at 9:30 pm)Hammy Wrote:(October 14, 2017 at 9:18 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: I said that a blind person can't visualize colors, but can only think of colors.
But they can't. They can only think of the concept of colors at best. They can't think of colors themselves at all. Colors are visual and a fully blind person who hasn't ever even been able to see in the past is completely unable to visualize i.e. they cannot think visually.
Quote:I have had many moments in my life where I felt nothing but a positive emotion and, yet, I judged certain things as being ugly, disgusting, and the most horrible moments, things, and situations in my life. From there, people would ask me if that is any real ugly, disgusting, and horrible value in my life. I would tell them that it all comes down to my inner universe. I would compare this state of mind I am in (which is just words) to those horrible miserable states of mind I've been through in the past. The conclusion is clear as day. Those words wouldn't be any real horrible, ugly, or disgusting value in my life at all.
So you're completely denying the effects that beliefs can have on emotions, basically. You can feel positive emotions and then convince yourself that things are horrible... and then that can cause you to feel horrible emotions. Just because things are not as horrible as you believe they are does not mean that your delusions cannot cause you to feel things that are awful. They can.
You, like Benny, are confusing epistemic and ontological subjectivity. Just because you cannot epistemically conclude something objectively does not mean that those subjective effects are not very objectively real in your consciousness ontologically.
You are doing the equivalent of someone who says that because emotions are "all in your head" then that means they're 'not real'. And the equivalent of a Christian who once told me that atheism proves that emotions are unreal because they are 'just brain chemistry'.
I have no idea what you just said. All I was saying was that, if I felt nothing but a positive emotion, judged and believed something in my life to be horrible, but that did not make me feel a negative emotion, then these judgments of things being horrible in my life would just be words and nothing more. I would compare this state of mind (words) to those horrible miserable states of mind I have had in the past (a negative emotion) and the conclusion is that words are just words. They do not possess the power of those horrible miserable states which means that these words possess no real horrible quality to them. They are just thoughts of certain qualities, but they, themselves, do not possess any real horrible or beautiful quality in my life. That's the reason why it can only be my positive and negative emotions that can give my life real good and bad value since they are a real quality of good and bad in my life.