Thoughts on Hell?

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 I worship the God who gave us His word so that we could have a spiritual relationship with Him, the book is all about how to enter that relationship and keep the relationship healthy.

GC

Yeah, I'm just not ready for that kind of commitment right now, so I'm gonna swipe left....

 When will you be ready?

GC

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Evolutionist believe it's criminal to reject evolutionary science, believe me I've heard it many times on this site.

God says that one can look to nature and see that He exists. He gave His Son to redeem mankind. 
Man brought sin into this world and only because God loves us so much did He give us a way out of sin. Man is the guilty party, we continue to sin every day defying what God did for us. He didn't have to it wasn't a requirement that He save a world and it's people from themselves, love of His creation is part of our saving grace. God created a perfect world and mankind has ruined it with sin and so the burden should be on us, however God took it on Himself to bring about a way for man to escape what he did.

GC

Pretty sure your little god invented sin by defining right and wrong behaviors.

 Sin has to be committed, it's not just hanging around. God doesn't define sin, sin is action contrary to who God is, this was so before creation.

GC

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God isn't some character in a novel, He is real and He can only tell what is true.


God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent, the last meaning God has saw what each of us choose to do with our lives, none of the three or a combination of them means He controls our eternal destination. If you believe what you posted above then you need to bring some proof of preordination, the Bible speaks of choice.


How so, where's your proof God planned His creation to be one way only, the scriptures do not say that. Why would God who loves all mankind create some to go to hell, you make no sense whatsoever.


 This is a tired old argument that holds no water because it is completely flawed. God created the human race with choice, He wants us to come to Him in love. God is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent and being all these things and determining the total outcome of mankind then why would He even bother, it cost Him his Son through the suffering of all sin, God wouldn't have done this when all He had to do is destroy His creation. you make no sense in your argument and it has no bases at all.

GC

You are saying things that are inherently incombinable. And that's the entire point. It's like you are some character from 1984 trying to believe two opposite things at once. Or like you are saying something has all the proporties of a square and then say it's a circle because of all of those properties.
The bible can talk about free choice all it wants. You can claim it would be silly for him to bother with an experiment he would know the outcome for, but that is what omniscience entails.

You are trying to turn the argument back on me with what I stated, want work. I haven't said anything about believing opposites and I haven't called something one thing and then said it was something else. You are having trouble understanding God because you do not know Him.

 

It boils down to this:
1) Omniscience => Knowing how any one of an infinite ways to create his creation would turn out for every individual ever in it.

Wrong, omniscience means God knows all things as in knowing how to create the perfect universe. You are confusing omniscience with omnipresence.

2) Omnipotence => Being able to choose any one of those infinite ways, including the best one in which everyone would come to him.

You are defining these things to fit your argument, to prove your point you have use your argument against who God is. You can't just make this stuff up and expect a learned Christian to swallow this stuff.
Omnipotence means that God has the power to create and destroy the universe at His desire. Creating something from nothing is omnipotence.

3) The act of creation => Actively chosing whatever would happen and be chosen within a creation he has total control over due to "1" & "2"

Your statement #3 shows you know nothing about God. You want to argue against Him yet you want use the book that describes who He is. That's like trying to redefine math and never opening a math book. 

This is a square, kid. You want to explain to me where my reasoning is wrong and how it makes the circle of 'free choice'? Protip: you have to point out where its not logical, not where 'scripture says so'.

First thing I'm not a kid. Secondly you have no idea what you are talking about so your definition of who God is doesn't wash. Until you study the scriptures you are backing up. The scriptures come from God telling us who He is unless you know of a better source. See how the Bible is the only one you need to read it. What you have said is not logical because you do not know what the definition of God's attributes are and you left out omnipresent which explains why you can't possibly understand who God is.

I'm not twisting the burden of proof because i haven't tried to prove God to you, I'm telling you what I know about God because He has revealed such things to me and many other Christians. By the way if you make the claim God isn't real the burden of proof falls on you, I do not have to nor need to prove He is real I already know He is.

GC[/quote]

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 I didn't even read your response, we've been through this enough and I'm tired of your willful spite on this subject.

GC

Is that directed at me?

Anywhoo I'm not spiteful, just pointing out that all the supernatural characters in theologies are mythical to me.
Talking about them as though they exist has the same impact as trying to convince me of how Harry Potter wore his briefs.
Its talking about fiction.

Until you can actually come up with something that has some substance that will continue to be my opinion.

Oh and I don't care, atheism is not a big part of my life. It just happens to be how it is.
The same way I live in England, its just one of those things.

 If you are Astreja then it is, but seeing that you are not then NO.

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 I worship the God who gave us His word so that we could have a spiritual relationship with Him, the book is all about how to enter that relationship and keep the relationship healthy.

GC

The biblical God is Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies.  Gentiles were on his shit list.

You really like to show how dumb you are don't you.