Thoughts on Hell?

[Godscreated]

It is rather simple if one wants to know God, He has asked that you come to Him through faith and He will give you proof of His existence. Now that faith means one has to admit they are sinful and desire God's forgiveness through Christ and the relationship begins. God did not make it complicated, through Jesus He has simplified things, the only thing you have to sacrifice is your pride, not your life not animals nor live by the Jewish law that is a burden, Christ took care of all that for us.

What your "kind" fails to understand is that self-deception (aka faith) is not a trustworthy method to arrive at any sort of reliable information.
And knowing that you can deceive yourself of nearly anything, a person who is really desiring to find out how everything works will try to eliminate as many such deceptions as possible.

First things first, I'm not a kind I'm a human being just like you. I'm really tired of being referred to as a kind, it is just another bigoted term atheist like to use to demean Christians. Secondly I haven't deceived myself that is only your opinion which I do not regard as trustworthy. Like I said I do not deceive myself and so there are no deceptions to eliminate.

As children, people usually let go of the faith in Santa... That they hold on so strongly to the god deception just shows how powerfully society reinforces that deception.
Society and psychology... understand these and you understand why people believe in gods. Why there are different gods in different parts of the world, why different religions go to war. Sadly, most people can't even glimpse these two disciplines.

That's because Santa isn't real. Belief in Santa and God are not even comparable. We have proof Santa doesn't exist and you have no proof God doesn't exist, this alone shoots down your flawed argument.
What's truly sad is that you refuse to glimpse the creator and savior of the universe. I understand society, and psychology has it's good points but in many cases is severally flawed, neither have cause me to believe or disbelieve, I think clearly for myself. As I said above God will prove His existence to those who seek it, I know He has done that for me.

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It means God is omnipresent and that He saw what was going to happen before creation, God hasn't changed just because he created the universe and brought everything into existence. Right time was created, for us not God He is eternal, He has always existed. That old book has the answers to everything we need to know to live in a relationship with God and he will explain it to those who are interested in that relationship. Pretenders need not apply.

GC

What does it mean to be eternal, in the absence of time?!
What does it mean to create something in the absence of time?!
What does it mean to create time?!
What does "always" mean in the absence of time?!

You need to be careful with the words you use. I know you're not used to think about these things, but you should try.

I think quite clearly, it is you who has no understanding of time and God, so I'll answer your questions that you thought proved I was stupid.

1) The absence of time is eternal.
3) God created time when He created our existence, man needs time for his daily routine.
2) God created time before He created anything else, so time existed before the material universe was created.
4) See #1.

You are advocating that, god exists in a state where no time exists. And that, somehow, without any time, god manages to generate a region of space and time. And then you claim further that god permeates through all of the created time, knowing all the events that take place within this region it generated.

I advocated no such thing, I said God is eternal and thus needs no time this is something that mortal man can not grasp because we need time. God did not generate a region in space, there was no space before He created the universe. God is eternal and thus lives in all the time, as we understand time, He is fully aware of every second of your life from beginning to end and the same goes for all that come after us. God is capable of this because he is not limited by time, He is omnipresent which means He is living in what we understand as the past, present and future continually.

Can you understand that this raises a bunch of questions about the nature of this entity?
And the least important of those is - why the heck would that god care if any particular individual on this blue floating marble believes that it exists or not?

The nature of God can not be fully understood by man so there are man questions we all would like to have the answer to but, God is beyond what we can comprehend. This is why God refers to himself as spirit. What you believe to be the least is the most important to God, pick up a Bible and actually read it to see what it says about who God is. It's difficult to have a discussion with someone that is ignorant of who God is even if you do not believe it's important to understand what is claimed. By the way to clearly answer your question above, God cares because He created us to love.

Bonus question for shits and giggles! If he saw what was going to happen before creation, then (within your temporal framework where things can happen without time) anything we do has been seen - it is thus fixed, and no free will really exists. Everything we do, everything we're going to do, has already been seen. It is already known. It is predetermined. Why would such a god have made things in such a way as to make me not believe in it, knowing full well that would be so?

It is fixed only to the One who knows, this does not mean anything was predetermined, it means that God alone knows what will happen. As far as for man nothing is fixed because we can't see pass the present moment. You seem to be the one deluding yourself by believing that foreknowledge is predestination, that isn't even close to being true. God knows your decisions, He has seen all you have chosen to do, He hasn't made you do any of it, that's why God can refer to mans thoughts as foolish. If God had predetermined your life and mine He wouldn't be able to refer to man's decisions and thoughts as foolish. Even though God knows the ones who will never believe till it's to late He still cares enough to offer salvation to them, God gave His Son for all mankind. This is a concept that is impossible for us to fully understand but nevertheless it is true, read the Bible and you can see it is so.

GC

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 When will you be ready?

GC

Given how needy your god is, never.

Sorry you feel that way, it's a choice you will regret.

GC

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Then you will receive what you ask for, you will face the God who created this vast universe through spoken word alone and you will be without excuse.

Or better yet, there will be no god for me to confront with my wrath because I will simply cease to exist.

Completely wrong.

GC

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I responded to let you know if hell is your choice then so be it, I can't change what you desire and glad I do not have to live with your choice.

If it were up to me, GC, every night you would awaken screaming and drenched in cold sweat from a nightmare of seeing yourself or a loved one being tortured by your "loving" god, until those nightmares utterly fucking destroyed your faith.  You disgust me.

 You are without a doubt one really sick mined person that i would not trust with a dogs life.

GC