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Consumer confidence hits 13-year high
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RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high
(October 17, 2017 at 10:14 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Once again your wrong about all they above . And put a great deal of effort into making yourself look like a tool .

do you have evidence that I am wrong or are we just to take it on faith that you are right?

Wrong kind of web site to be preaching faith here sport.

(October 17, 2017 at 11:26 pm)Javaman Wrote: Is it just me? Or does so much of Trump support rely upon finding an oasis of (sorta) good amongst an overwhelming desert of (definitely) bad?

how is a strong economy 'sorta good" are you a friggen moron? ecconomics/money drives and alleviates 90% of our collective problems.

(October 17, 2017 at 11:35 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(October 17, 2017 at 11:26 pm)Javaman Wrote: Is it just me? Or does so much of Trump support rely upon finding an oasis of (sorta) good amongst an overwhelming desert of (definitely) bad?

No it's more finding good news and convincing themselves it because of Trump. So they don't have to live up to the fact  they voted for a man child .

verses 8 years of less than 3% GDP growth, and literally a doubling of the deficate of every president that came before Obama. in one presidential cycle this man spend dollar for dollar (in the negative) as much money as every single other administration combined! What do we have to show for it? what did we get?

a few warm and fuzzy speeches? seriously? I would rather follow the man child who brings wealth and prosperity back to this country than follow a woman who was actively promoting 4 more years of doom and gloom.

(October 18, 2017 at 6:17 am)Brian37 Wrote: ah.no..

The GDP has been down around 1.5% (1,8% through out obama 8 years.) just the thought of a business man running the country spiked the last couple months of obama's presidency.

Before Obama's dismal attempt to be an economic leader no other president had ever dipped below 3% GDP that lame duck crashed and burned and with 4 more years of his economic policies through Clinton, would have spelled doom for american financial independence.

That is what most of us saw when voting for trump.

Why "america first resonated."


but there is no bubble here sport. The economic excitment is based on lower taxes, deregulated business practices (less fines and forms to fill out to do business) and an influx of working capitol once the off shore money (8 to 10 trillion dollars) comes back to american banks..

What do you think that money is going to do in those banks? sit there and spontanious multiply? no. that money means loans and working capitol for the people who make the world spin for the rest of us. it is not only loans but bigger returns on investments/investors. which means better chance at joe smow getting loans, all of which means more and high paying jobs.

What was 2007 based on? a unsustainable housing market bubble. What is unsustainable in investing in this country infrastructure, and bring jobs back from over seas?

Quote:Trump has NOTHING to do with this recovery, that started YEARS AGO.
ah.no..

The GDP has been down around 1.5% (1,8% through out obama 8 years.) just the thought of a business man running the country spiked the last couple months of obama's presidency. Why???

Because of the tax and spend mentality of the obama era. Obama's heavy business regulations and 50% corporate tax= money leaving these shores by the boat load to tax shelters/off shore accounts.

I own a business and we are not anywhere near that 50% rate but we flirted around with it once or twice, and when we did here is what your accountant will tell you.

let's Say you are scheduled to clear 1,000,000 in profit for a given 1/4 instead of being hit with a 50% tax if you leave you money here, you invest in a .001% Bank CD type of account that is in a different country. You do not have to pay obama's tax.

Now granted there will be transfer fees and tax you will have to pay in that country where the bank is, say 20%, which means you will loose 250K off your profit, it is still better than leaving the money here after taking a 50% hit in obama tax and leaving the money invested here with a bank even if you were to make 20% return (which will never happen) why? not only because of the capitol gains taxes you will have to pay but also because you have laid out more in the initial taxes than what you could earn back even at a 20% rate!!! So sending the money off shore is the best way for rich people to keep the government out of their money as those 'investments off shore do not present themselves as earings for a quarter but as a deduction under obama's watch.

So for you to say this ecconomic growth starts with obama is utter bullshit to the highest propagandic order. why? because no one would risk touching that money, taking the hit from the bank it was in and again the initial 50% hit the government was due plus any capitol gains that was due to the us and the hosting bank government!!! One could loose 75% of his money by moving while all the obama era tax and spend regulations are in place.

So what does trump offer/do that makes money move that in an obama regeim freezes assetts/ Trump promises to "repatriate" those long forgotten trillions held in off shore accounts for very little tax gains!!! Now ask yourself where does that money go? it does not go into stuffing fat cat mattresses!!!. it goes into banks and yes the stock market.

So what we are seeing now are the really smart people taking everything they have, and buy up everything, because when that 10 trillion in repatriated money gets here that trump says is out there comes back to this economy and hits these shores again, it will blow the roof off of the exchange!

That is what is happening, not some obama leavens mixed in with well wishing and dash dim-o-craps broken dreams..
Quote:He and the GOP value the same bat shit insane economic policies that caused Bush Jr's triple crash.
how old are you? 9-11-01 is what tank the market/was the catilist that was the whole point of hitting the world trade center.. it was thought it would destroy the stock exchange forever!

Rather bush smartly infused the market with a call to keep buying and even offer those tax rebates. yes the economy tank, but it never crashed like osama wanted it to.

Quote:Sure, you CAN set up short term gains, but long term stability is a much different thing.
Which is what I was describing with the deregulating and simplification of the tax code. I can't tell you how many of my fellow business owners are waiting with baited breath for this tax relief and the million upon million that we are planning on spending once this new tax code is in place. not to mention the new highers we will have to make room for to run all this new equipment. Not to mention the orders for the equipment we sell, from other bsiness owners. went to a trade show last week and I spent three days of talking to people just likeme waiting to pull the trigger so we can afford to expand our businesses!!!

That is long term growth sport, along with the trillions comming back infusing not only the stock market but lending instutions as well. which just means more and more jobs. If trump has his way you douche bags won't be able to remember obama's economic depression
Quote:Selling the bullshit "let the rich do whatever the fuck they want" makes voters feel good, but it causes LONG TERM DEPT.
Because the poor and enlighten/educated have it all figured out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wHCk0iDeBg&t=396s

How many "rich people" did you see there? how many corporations were represented

Quote:If America is stupid enough to give that orange asshat 8 years he'll make Bush's crash look like BOOM.
hey dummy... OBAMA had 1.5% ecconomic GDP growth as an average in his reign. NO president had ever once dipped below 3.0% before him. Trump is on slate for having 4% by the end of his first year!

Can't argue the numbers Even bush2 beat out obama's best efforts as an economic leader!!!

Quote:OBAMA was the start of the recovery,
Jerkoff the only recovery obama witnessed was AFTER Trump won the election in that lame duck period between the end of the election and the swearing in of the new president

Quote:but unfortunately because we've been held hostage by Reagan's trickle down bullshit dems can only do so much.
how about the 'dim' just sit down and shut it for a while.. you had your turn at bat, and almost pushed us into one world ecconomy. let see what just 8 years
of America first bring us.
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Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by John V - October 13, 2017 at 10:50 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Silver - October 13, 2017 at 11:02 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Brian37 - October 13, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Joods - October 18, 2017 at 6:44 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Brian37 - October 18, 2017 at 7:40 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 18, 2017 at 3:47 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by JackRussell - October 13, 2017 at 11:42 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Court Jester - October 13, 2017 at 12:18 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Little lunch - October 13, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by JackRussell - October 13, 2017 at 12:46 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Jackalope - October 13, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Brian37 - October 13, 2017 at 2:52 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Amarok - October 13, 2017 at 5:32 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 17, 2017 at 3:35 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Anomalocaris - October 13, 2017 at 6:01 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by brewer - October 13, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Thumpalumpacus - October 14, 2017 at 12:53 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Crossless2.0 - October 14, 2017 at 1:11 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 17, 2017 at 2:50 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Brian37 - October 18, 2017 at 6:17 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Aegon - October 17, 2017 at 3:20 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Amarok - October 17, 2017 at 10:14 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 18, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Javaman - October 19, 2017 at 10:38 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Sterben - October 19, 2017 at 11:26 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Javaman - October 17, 2017 at 11:26 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Amarok - October 17, 2017 at 11:35 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Joods - October 18, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Brian37 - October 18, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Joods - October 18, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Divinity - October 18, 2017 at 2:35 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 18, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Crossless2.0 - October 18, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 18, 2017 at 4:19 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Silver - October 18, 2017 at 4:21 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 18, 2017 at 5:04 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Crossless2.0 - October 20, 2017 at 12:21 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Crossless2.0 - October 21, 2017 at 8:22 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Crossless2.0 - October 18, 2017 at 4:37 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by JackRussell - October 18, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by JackRussell - October 18, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 18, 2017 at 4:29 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Crossless2.0 - October 18, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 18, 2017 at 4:41 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Crossless2.0 - October 18, 2017 at 4:50 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Joods - October 19, 2017 at 7:57 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by JackRussell - October 18, 2017 at 4:51 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Brian37 - October 19, 2017 at 1:14 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 20, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Amarok - October 19, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Drich - October 24, 2017 at 1:18 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Astreja - October 24, 2017 at 1:21 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Crossless2.0 - October 19, 2017 at 10:01 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Amarok - October 20, 2017 at 4:22 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Brian37 - October 20, 2017 at 10:06 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Amarok - October 20, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Brian37 - October 20, 2017 at 12:54 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by downbeatplumb - October 21, 2017 at 10:42 am
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Joods - October 21, 2017 at 4:37 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by downbeatplumb - October 22, 2017 at 1:46 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Fake Messiah - October 22, 2017 at 5:35 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by JackRussell - October 21, 2017 at 3:33 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Jackalope - October 24, 2017 at 1:57 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Amarok - October 24, 2017 at 3:53 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Mister Agenda - October 24, 2017 at 4:07 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by JackRussell - October 24, 2017 at 4:11 pm
RE: Consumer confidence hits 13-year high - by Fake Messiah - October 26, 2017 at 12:17 am

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