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If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
(October 18, 2017 at 2:52 pm)speedyj1992 Wrote: Are you saying you don't think I'd thought my way into atheism or theism? Because I've thought my way in and out of both, and what originally got me away from religion was actually a big lack of understanding the problems of evil and why God doesn't work in certain ways. 

So you became an atheist because you didn't like the way god works?  That's not atheism.

(October 18, 2017 at 2:52 pm)speedyj1992 Wrote: Your definition of chaos is very strong, thank you for sharing it. As for how God came about, I just take His answer to Moses when asked His name in Exodus: "I AM WHO I AM." (from Exodus 3:14) God has always existed (and is the only one, also according to many references in the Bible, and it would make sense God created time to cause our existence because God exists outside of time, being omniscient), and I'll get more to how God always existing isn't that farfetched in a moment ...

Current evidence shows that abiogenesis (which is just life emerging from nonorganic matter) is impossible, so either life had to exist organically from the beginning or God existed from the beginning, unless we find something that suggests abiogenesis actually could've happened (the research on this is actually pretty interesting, you should look into Robert Hoyle and what his research, flawed as it was, looked at regarding experiments to generate proteins for DNA molecules from nothing). Either way, something had to exist from the beginning, and beleiving in

So, words from a book of mythology explains how the main character came about.  Wow.

And if it was shown that abiogenesis is possible?  Where does that leave you and your god?  Do you just go and re-interpret everything so it fits nicely again?  No, because your belief in god is not really a belief in god, but a belief in belief.  With it, the hard questions are answered for you, and you don't have to give up or sacrefice anything.  Except your critical thinking skills.  But you also have all sorts of the same ilk ready to stroke you and claim that it's alright.  They're wrong.  YOU'RE the right one.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by Harry Nevis - October 18, 2017 at 3:45 pm

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