RE: Wanted: Christians who reject the supernatural and a literal afterlife.
October 19, 2017 at 2:36 pm
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2017 at 2:39 pm by Whateverist.)
(October 19, 2017 at 2:27 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I just left the gym where I worked out with a very liberal-minded Catholic friend. She does not believe that the Bible was written or inspired by God. She calls it "our little book of history stories". She does not believe that hell exists. The ideas of a virgin birth and a resurrection are laughable to her. She does believe in god, she does believe in an afterlife of some sort or another, and she thinks that god inspired Jesus's teachings. She goes to church because she has always gone to church, and her friends are there.
I think she's one step away from atheism, myself, but I don't push. She's bright and good company.
I'd much rather talk with her about religion than any theist we have around here these days.
I wonder how she conceives of god. Still a personal, literal afterlife is a non-starter.
(October 19, 2017 at 2:33 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Lemme give you one of my favorite examples, Whatevs. In the gospels...the story of the faith of a canaanite woman (fuckin matthew somewhere). You'll appreciate this, because jesus allegorically calls a woman a bitch, and she runs with it..because she's got her kid in mind.
My wife could feel this story, she could understand the motivations and comments of this woman in this story. She's not convinced that it's a transcript from some ancient associated press interview, lol.
Nevertheless, even as allegory, jesus allegorically calls a woman a bitch, in the strongest sense, for having been born of the wrong tribe. She has to haggle for her daughters life and/or soul. Because the little girl gets healed in the end, it;s a good story. The allegorical takeaway for her is that jesus, or the healing power of christ..or redemption..it isn't limited to a specific tribe. For her, it might even be considered a story in which some random female calls jesus on his bullshit (which it is, even allegorically).
Alls well that ends well.
I wonder if Jesus Christ has ever been on the Jerry Springer show.