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The Universal Moral Code
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RE: The Universal Moral Code
(October 21, 2017 at 11:07 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:2. All life has equal rights. Each living being is equal in value or importance to every other living being. No living being or group of beings has any rights, including the rights to exploit, or abuse, or force their own will, upon any other living being or group of beings, unless all beings involved are willing participants.


Malignant cancerous tumors are 'alive' by any meaningful definition of the word.  Is such a tumor  'equal in value or importance to every other living being'?  If so, then any attempt to destroy the tumor (radiation, chemotherapy, excision surgery, etc) in order to save the patient is evil, according to your definition.  Antibiotics used to treat life-threating bacterial infections would be evil, as would eradicating insect or rodent pests that pose a threat to human populations.


Do you object to medical experimentation performed on rabbits, pigs, non-human primates, etc?  Bearing in mind that such research has saved untold millions of human beings from death and misery, would you consider these experiments 'evil'?



Did you eat anything today?  If so, did you eat living beings?  Even if you are an uber-vegan, you might want to reflect that soy beans and celery stalks are living beings.


You may want to think this through again.


Boru

Yes to all your questions, really good ones, by the way. I consider everything you said to be wrong. I ate grains which did not give their consent for me to eat them. I do not believe it is possible for us to live an absolutely righteous life for very long.

(October 21, 2017 at 12:06 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I like the general idea of the first 4 principles except for the obvious problem that all living beings can only exist by feeding off other life. Considering unconscious plants living beings for the purpose of morality really complicates things unnecessarily. There is no getting around that lions are conscious and zebras are conscious though and that lions don't do too well on a diet of eucalyptus leaves.

The second part - dealing with those who fail to adhere to the code is actually where I have my biggest problem. It sounds like revenge-think. Sinking to same level as evil is definitely not the way to deal with evil. Not if we are to think of ourselves as good.

You are totally right, but we have no choice, as long as we are alive. I'm not saying we should take revenge. This is the way karma, life, works.
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The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 21, 2017 at 8:27 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2017 at 8:33 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Aroura - October 21, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 24, 2017 at 12:21 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Aroura - October 24, 2017 at 5:38 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Neo-Scholastic - October 21, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 22, 2017 at 3:54 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - October 22, 2017 at 7:35 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 28, 2017 at 2:52 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by downbeatplumb - October 21, 2017 at 8:39 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Whateverist - October 21, 2017 at 9:41 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Fireball - October 21, 2017 at 10:31 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - October 21, 2017 at 9:44 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 21, 2017 at 9:47 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - October 21, 2017 at 9:50 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Little lunch - October 21, 2017 at 10:24 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 22, 2017 at 4:19 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by downbeatplumb - October 29, 2017 at 6:46 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Ravenshire - October 21, 2017 at 10:59 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 21, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Cyberman - October 22, 2017 at 4:24 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 22, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Whateverist - October 22, 2017 at 4:47 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by AFTT47 - October 21, 2017 at 12:06 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 24, 2017 at 7:42 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2017 at 1:41 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Edwardo Piet - October 21, 2017 at 2:01 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Crossless2.0 - October 21, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 22, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Minimalist - October 22, 2017 at 4:16 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 22, 2017 at 5:44 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Anomalocaris - October 22, 2017 at 7:14 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2017 at 12:45 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 25, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2017 at 9:55 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 26, 2017 at 8:27 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Cyberman - October 26, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2017 at 9:58 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 26, 2017 at 2:05 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - October 28, 2017 at 4:02 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 28, 2017 at 11:47 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - October 29, 2017 at 1:05 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 1, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - November 1, 2017 at 11:45 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 2, 2017 at 3:43 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - November 2, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 2, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by henryp - October 28, 2017 at 11:59 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 1, 2017 at 2:28 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 1, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 2, 2017 at 8:31 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2017 at 3:00 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Edwardo Piet - November 2, 2017 at 8:38 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 2, 2017 at 1:06 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - November 2, 2017 at 1:11 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - November 2, 2017 at 8:49 am

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