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Thoughts on Hell?
RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 23, 2017 at 10:20 pm)Godscreated Wrote:
(October 21, 2017 at 7:23 am)pocaracas Wrote: Let me guess, no one even blinked when you hinted (because you never told them that) that god could carry out actions in the absence of time.

 They all already understood what eternity means, even the youth of the church understand eternity, you my friend are behind the time. Tongue

GC

Tongue

Most people understand our universe like a box where everything happens. And you also have space and time in there, too.
And then whatever is outside of that box is beyond the universe.

The problem is that "outside" implies space; and actions imply time. And both these implied concepts are so rooted in us that we don't think of what it means to have them missing. We totally lack any intuition as to what that means and what it entails.
I'm trying to get you to understand this... not sure I'm having much success.... but I can tell for sure that (at least) most of those in your church will be thinking in terms of the box with space and time to spare beyond the box.
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Thoughts on Hell? - by SisterAgatha - October 11, 2017 at 9:13 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 11, 2017 at 9:23 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 11, 2017 at 9:36 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Angrboda - October 11, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by brewer - October 11, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 12:18 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 11, 2017 at 9:41 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 11, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 11, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 11, 2017 at 10:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 3:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Industrial Atheist - October 13, 2017 at 4:28 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 10:40 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 14, 2017 at 12:08 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Industrial Atheist - October 15, 2017 at 12:38 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 17, 2017 at 4:41 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 17, 2017 at 5:03 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 18, 2017 at 3:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 18, 2017 at 4:53 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 18, 2017 at 5:27 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 18, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Silver - October 17, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 17, 2017 at 11:16 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LastPoet - October 17, 2017 at 1:27 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 17, 2017 at 1:18 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 18, 2017 at 3:54 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Joods - October 18, 2017 at 4:53 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 18, 2017 at 8:00 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Joods - October 18, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 18, 2017 at 4:56 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 18, 2017 at 12:56 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 13, 2017 at 4:41 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 11:01 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Silver - October 13, 2017 at 11:03 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 14, 2017 at 2:38 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 13, 2017 at 8:57 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 11:08 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 13, 2017 at 11:56 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 14, 2017 at 7:33 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 18, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 11, 2017 at 10:03 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by vorlon13 - October 11, 2017 at 10:07 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 11, 2017 at 10:10 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Homeless Nutter - October 11, 2017 at 10:14 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 11, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Little Rik - October 11, 2017 at 10:39 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 11, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Little Rik - October 11, 2017 at 11:14 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 11, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Little Rik - October 12, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 12, 2017 at 11:50 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 11, 2017 at 11:09 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Little lunch - October 11, 2017 at 10:54 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Industrial Atheist - October 11, 2017 at 11:13 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 11, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 11, 2017 at 11:21 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 11, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 11, 2017 at 12:09 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 11, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 11, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 11, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Nay_Sayer - October 11, 2017 at 12:38 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by SisterAgatha - October 11, 2017 at 12:46 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 11, 2017 at 1:15 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by brewer - October 11, 2017 at 9:44 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 11, 2017 at 12:48 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 12:48 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 11, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by SisterAgatha - October 11, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 11, 2017 at 1:01 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 11, 2017 at 1:38 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Succubus - October 11, 2017 at 9:22 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 9:54 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 11, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by SisterAgatha - October 11, 2017 at 1:02 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 11, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 1:04 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by WinterHold - October 11, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 11, 2017 at 1:13 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 11, 2017 at 1:18 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 11, 2017 at 1:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LastPoet - October 11, 2017 at 1:38 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by KevinM1 - October 11, 2017 at 5:30 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Minimalist - October 12, 2017 at 11:35 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 12, 2017 at 11:53 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by KevinM1 - October 12, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 12, 2017 at 8:38 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Minimalist - October 12, 2017 at 12:12 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 12, 2017 at 8:40 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 12, 2017 at 9:16 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Joods - October 12, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 12, 2017 at 9:15 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 9:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 13, 2017 at 9:59 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 13, 2017 at 10:28 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 12:50 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 13, 2017 at 1:14 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 1:54 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 13, 2017 at 3:15 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 3:42 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 13, 2017 at 9:21 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 19, 2017 at 4:49 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 19, 2017 at 11:47 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 19, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 18, 2017 at 3:12 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 19, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 19, 2017 at 7:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Valkyrie - October 12, 2017 at 9:34 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 12, 2017 at 11:57 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Silver - October 12, 2017 at 9:36 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 13, 2017 at 5:31 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 13, 2017 at 10:34 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 13, 2017 at 11:00 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 13, 2017 at 11:04 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 13, 2017 at 11:09 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2017 at 11:45 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2017 at 12:53 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by KevinM1 - October 13, 2017 at 3:05 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2017 at 3:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 4:12 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by KevinM1 - October 13, 2017 at 6:14 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Edwardo Piet - October 13, 2017 at 6:45 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2017 at 4:00 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by KevinM1 - October 13, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2017 at 4:34 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 4:53 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 13, 2017 at 5:04 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Edwardo Piet - October 13, 2017 at 5:06 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2017 at 5:37 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 5:57 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by chimp3 - October 13, 2017 at 9:01 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Crossless2.0 - October 13, 2017 at 9:23 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by c172 - October 13, 2017 at 5:50 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 8:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 9:33 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 13, 2017 at 9:36 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by vorlon13 - October 13, 2017 at 9:50 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Edwardo Piet - October 13, 2017 at 10:53 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 9:35 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 10:09 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Crossless2.0 - October 13, 2017 at 11:59 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 14, 2017 at 12:13 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Crossless2.0 - October 14, 2017 at 12:24 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 13, 2017 at 10:25 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 9:37 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Silver - October 13, 2017 at 9:39 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 9:48 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 9:51 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 10:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 10:17 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 10:13 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 10:20 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 10:22 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 10:24 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by KevinM1 - October 13, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 10:43 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Amarok - October 13, 2017 at 10:43 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 11:06 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 11:10 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Silver - October 13, 2017 at 11:12 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Edwardo Piet - October 13, 2017 at 11:24 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by KevinM1 - October 14, 2017 at 12:00 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Edwardo Piet - October 14, 2017 at 12:02 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 17, 2017 at 3:20 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 17, 2017 at 4:08 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by KevinM1 - October 17, 2017 at 10:43 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Crossless2.0 - October 17, 2017 at 10:56 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 17, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 19, 2017 at 12:44 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 19, 2017 at 1:36 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 20, 2017 at 2:18 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 20, 2017 at 3:16 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 20, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 21, 2017 at 3:41 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 21, 2017 at 7:23 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 21, 2017 at 8:26 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Crossless2.0 - October 21, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 21, 2017 at 8:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Crossless2.0 - October 21, 2017 at 9:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 23, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 23, 2017 at 11:50 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Angrboda - October 24, 2017 at 7:16 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by mordant - October 25, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 21, 2017 at 5:24 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 21, 2017 at 9:41 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 22, 2017 at 12:00 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Succubus - October 22, 2017 at 12:19 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 22, 2017 at 12:34 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 23, 2017 at 10:20 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - October 23, 2017 at 10:47 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 23, 2017 at 10:52 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 25, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 25, 2017 at 4:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 25, 2017 at 6:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 26, 2017 at 7:08 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 27, 2017 at 12:17 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 28, 2017 at 12:19 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 28, 2017 at 12:53 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 28, 2017 at 1:12 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 28, 2017 at 1:43 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 27, 2017 at 7:56 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 27, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 27, 2017 at 10:33 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 27, 2017 at 3:25 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 26, 2017 at 11:05 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 24, 2017 at 6:05 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 25, 2017 at 2:50 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 25, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 24, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 19, 2017 at 11:20 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 19, 2017 at 1:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Crossless2.0 - October 19, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 20, 2017 at 3:18 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 23, 2017 at 8:58 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 25, 2017 at 12:52 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 30, 2017 at 6:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 14, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 15, 2017 at 2:12 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Edwardo Piet - October 13, 2017 at 11:08 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Amarok - October 14, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 14, 2017 at 12:13 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Amarok - October 14, 2017 at 12:10 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 14, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 18, 2017 at 3:52 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 18, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 19, 2017 at 1:18 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 19, 2017 at 1:25 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 20, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 20, 2017 at 2:03 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 20, 2017 at 2:42 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 19, 2017 at 1:42 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 18, 2017 at 3:11 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 19, 2017 at 1:17 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Minimalist - October 19, 2017 at 1:37 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 20, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Valkyrie - October 23, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 25, 2017 at 2:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 25, 2017 at 3:16 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 25, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 27, 2017 at 3:46 pm

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