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The Universal Moral Code
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RE: The Universal Moral Code
(October 22, 2017 at 7:35 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(October 22, 2017 at 3:54 pm)BlindedWantsToSee Wrote: I don't believe I'm a victim of others. If a victim, I am a victim of myself, for not observing the part of the Code that indicates that an injustice should not be accepted or put up with by anybody.

Would you like to tell us what injustices you committed, who claimed injustice and what, if any, retribution you received?

Sorry for the delay... I didn't mean to ignore your question; been rather busy. Sure, I will confess my transgressions, the ones I remember.

I have broken rule #1 by not taking full ownership of my own life and allowing others (such as family and society in general [bullies]) to tell me who I am, and what to do with myself, etc. This happened in my youth mostly. I felt the injustice, so it was my own psyche who claimed it. The retribution I received was my own suffering.

I have broken rules #2 and #3 by using others as chattel/property and inflicting pain and/or suffering on others. For example I've killed insects; I've eaten animals in the past, and for now, I have to eat plants to survive. The animals and the plants cannot claim injustice, except in a very subtle way which we may not be able to perceive, but my own conscience tells me that what is done to those living beings so that I can survive is wrong. This does not have to be accepted by anybody else, of course, but I believe it. The retribution: I believe that by disregarding the life and well-being of other living beings to gain benefits for my own life, I open up myself for other living beings to do the same to me. The most common examples would be the bacteria, viruses, cancer cells, parasites, and fungi that try to feed on us, make us sick, and take our lives in a lot of cases. So I would say all the illnesses I've had have been retribution.

The above is not the only way in which I've received retribution. I have bullied others; others have bullied me. I've used others in hurtful ways; others have used me in hurtful ways.  I've enslaved others; and I have been enslaved: by my own nature (by severely limiting me and not allowing me to be and do all I would like to be and do); by society (by making me conform to it or else face the agony of living in complete isolation). In most cases it is my own conscience that tells me that what's going on is not right. In most cases I have been a victim of myself for not putting a stop to the injustice.

I know most people cannot see things the way I do. That's because my vantage point is unique, just like everyone else's vantage point is unique. I write for those who may be going trough similar experiences as me or those who may some somehow are able to understand these principles so that we can help  those that may be hurting, aching, or suffering the most to stop the torture they are living in, whether they are human or animal or any other living being.

(October 22, 2017 at 5:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote: I do not believe it is possible for us to live an absolutely righteous life for very long.


Then your so called 'Universe Moral Code' is a fraud, or at best a farce.  What is the point of a moral code that cannot be adhered to?


Boru

Well said, that's my point. The rules that would need to be followed to ensure universal peace and a blissful life, where every living being respects the lives and well-being of all other living beings, are impossible to be followed in our reality. Conclusion is: reality is violent, unjust, unfair, wrong, and evil. I claim that all the pain and sorrow each of us feels in our lifetimes is a message telling us this; suffering is a witness that is telling us that there is something very wrong with the very nature of our lives. It should not be this way.

In wealthy countries there is a lot of human suffering, but outside of them, for about 6.5 billion people the human suffering is a lot worse. They keep reproducing themselves having hardly anything to eat; and they love life in their misery. This is crazy to me. I hope I can raise some awareness, for their sake.

By the way, I didn't mean to not reply for so long. Sorry.
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The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 21, 2017 at 8:27 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2017 at 8:33 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Aroura - October 21, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 24, 2017 at 12:21 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Aroura - October 24, 2017 at 5:38 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Neo-Scholastic - October 21, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 22, 2017 at 3:54 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - October 22, 2017 at 7:35 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 28, 2017 at 2:52 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by downbeatplumb - October 21, 2017 at 8:39 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Whateverist - October 21, 2017 at 9:41 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Fireball - October 21, 2017 at 10:31 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - October 21, 2017 at 9:44 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 21, 2017 at 9:47 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - October 21, 2017 at 9:50 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Little lunch - October 21, 2017 at 10:24 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 22, 2017 at 4:19 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by downbeatplumb - October 29, 2017 at 6:46 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Ravenshire - October 21, 2017 at 10:59 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 21, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Cyberman - October 22, 2017 at 4:24 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 22, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Whateverist - October 22, 2017 at 4:47 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by AFTT47 - October 21, 2017 at 12:06 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 24, 2017 at 7:42 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2017 at 1:41 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Edwardo Piet - October 21, 2017 at 2:01 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Crossless2.0 - October 21, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 22, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Minimalist - October 22, 2017 at 4:16 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 22, 2017 at 5:44 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Anomalocaris - October 22, 2017 at 7:14 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2017 at 12:45 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 25, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2017 at 9:55 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 26, 2017 at 8:27 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Cyberman - October 26, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2017 at 9:58 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 26, 2017 at 2:05 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - October 28, 2017 at 4:02 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - October 28, 2017 at 11:47 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - October 29, 2017 at 1:05 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 1, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - November 1, 2017 at 11:45 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 2, 2017 at 3:43 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - November 2, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 2, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by henryp - October 28, 2017 at 11:59 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 1, 2017 at 2:28 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 1, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 2, 2017 at 8:31 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2017 at 3:00 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by Edwardo Piet - November 2, 2017 at 8:38 am
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by BlindedWantsToSee - November 2, 2017 at 1:06 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by brewer - November 2, 2017 at 1:11 pm
RE: The Universal Moral Code - by The Grand Nudger - November 2, 2017 at 8:49 am

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