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An argument against Adam and Eve
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(August 4, 2011 at 4:00 am)Godschild Wrote: No, I do not believe that and this is not because I'm sadistic, you can't prove God or hell isn't real so how is it you seem to be sure they do not exist?
I disagree i think we can prove hell isnt real. Hell can not be found anywhere in the whole of reality, no-one has been there nor comeback despite myriads of claimed near death experiences and religious experiences. There are powerful inductive reasons to not believe in hell for exactly the same reason we suspect Narnia was only a place in CS Lewis' mind. On the other hand there are no inductive reasons at all to believe in a hell. Deductively you cannot make a consistent argument for there being a really nice theme park in the sky and a horrid one in the basement. However compliant someone is they do not deserve eternal happiness for finite goodness nor eternal horrors for finite badness, given a god who is both all loving and just. Thus inductively and deductively hell does and cannot exist.

"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
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An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - July 30, 2011 at 6:45 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 30, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 6:52 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Violet - July 30, 2011 at 7:17 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 30, 2011 at 7:22 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 9:04 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 9:08 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 7:14 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 2, 2011 at 6:34 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 8:58 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 2, 2011 at 9:08 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 4:27 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Violet - July 30, 2011 at 9:24 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by edk - July 30, 2011 at 7:26 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by padraic - July 30, 2011 at 7:54 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - July 30, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 30, 2011 at 7:50 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 8:01 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by BloodyHeretic - July 30, 2011 at 8:27 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - July 31, 2011 at 5:09 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - July 31, 2011 at 10:02 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by edk - July 31, 2011 at 6:48 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Kayenneh - July 31, 2011 at 7:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 9:19 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 31, 2011 at 10:03 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 11:23 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 31, 2011 at 2:40 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 1, 2011 at 8:46 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 1, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - July 31, 2011 at 11:30 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 31, 2011 at 11:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 12:21 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Skeptic - July 31, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - August 1, 2011 at 3:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anomalocaris - August 2, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 4:06 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by DeistPaladin - August 1, 2011 at 11:41 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 31, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 31, 2011 at 2:58 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - July 31, 2011 at 3:12 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 1, 2011 at 4:54 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 1, 2011 at 7:00 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 2, 2011 at 7:42 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 6:47 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Kayenneh - August 1, 2011 at 7:06 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 11:02 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - August 1, 2011 at 5:47 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 1, 2011 at 11:36 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 2, 2011 at 12:02 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 2, 2011 at 1:15 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 1:36 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 3, 2011 at 2:00 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 3:16 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anymouse - August 13, 2011 at 6:40 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 3, 2011 at 2:27 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2011 at 12:39 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 2:58 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 3, 2011 at 3:22 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 4:03 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 3, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 3, 2011 at 5:23 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 4:53 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 3, 2011 at 11:35 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 4, 2011 at 4:00 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 4, 2011 at 4:12 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 5, 2011 at 1:13 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Captain Scarlet - August 13, 2011 at 2:28 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 4, 2011 at 4:40 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anymouse - August 2, 2011 at 6:57 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2011 at 11:24 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 6:22 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 3, 2011 at 3:08 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Violet - August 3, 2011 at 2:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 3, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2011 at 3:55 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 5, 2011 at 1:35 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 5, 2011 at 1:39 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - August 13, 2011 at 4:49 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Emanuel - August 13, 2011 at 5:24 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - August 13, 2011 at 5:46 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Tiberius - August 13, 2011 at 6:21 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 13, 2011 at 7:36 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 14, 2011 at 3:20 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by padraic - August 15, 2011 at 2:15 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anymouse - August 15, 2011 at 5:40 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by DeistPaladin - August 15, 2011 at 9:01 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2011 at 3:02 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by KichigaiNeko - August 15, 2011 at 6:09 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2011 at 9:14 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by KichigaiNeko - August 15, 2011 at 9:16 am

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