If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?

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If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?

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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?

November 8, 2017 at 12:30 am

(July 27, 2017 at 4:03 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: By any logical standard if there was any evidence for the existence of god, that would make faith irrelevant.

That faith is needed in the religious community reasonably means that zero evidence is in existence to prove god is real.

The "Church" says "faith", the bible does not. The bible only asks us to "trust--pistos" God in His promises of abundant life through followship. He NEVER asked anyone to "believe" blindly, in the original autographed language, God only asked that we trust His leadership. Any 'imagined' "faith" is completely useless and anecdotal.

However, what the church has done with "faith" is inexcusable! God NEVER asked for "blind faith", He asks us to trust Him with eyes wide open to His power guaranteed by all that He has made! NOT grace! NOT English Eph 2:8 "by grace", but Greek "to-thee joyous favor"!

Funny, how I would be booted from a Christian Forum for saying that. Yet, possible welcomed here! Smile

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Only to His glory, Bill

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