RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 10:16 am
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2017 at 10:25 am by Whateverist.)
(November 9, 2017 at 1:21 am)pool the matey Wrote: Sometimes it's good to have a conversation with a non believer because you learn certain things from them and they learn certain things from you because you're both open minded and you both have a good conversation.
Other times some people are just close minded, they don't care about having a conversation, they're just there to show their "dominance" over you with comments that degrade virgin Mary, how you're too weak minded to be believing in "made up stories", or just to poke fun at you. Well, you can tell these assholes asking for evidence of God is silly according to their own standards. Why?
Because it's a strawman fallacy. How?
Only scientific textbooks needs to provide scientific evidence.
Nowhere in the Bible does it claim to be a scientific textbook, it's a religious textbook and it's called the Christian faith not the Christian science.
So when someone asks for scientific evidence they themselves are asserting that Bible is a scientific textbook(which it never claimed) and then asks for evidence(which it doesn't have to present).
So next time someone just wants to shut you down, you can do the same thing to them. Ask them to show where in the bible it claims to be a scientific textbook and then you'll give the scientific evidence.
The most obvious reply will be "So if Bible isn't scientific it isn't real is it lolololol". You can use the same trick atheists use(It's not that I DON'T believe in God or claim God doesn't exist, I just reject the claim). Just reply "I never claimed Bible isn't scientific, I just reject your claim that Bible is scientific because you didn't provide any evidence to back it up"
So you're basically saying the Christian faith is something one opts into for their own reasons, not on the basis of evidence. I agree. To me most of the 'reasons' I hear xtians profess seem to spring from their interior lives and musings about how our exterior world might just be some greater being's interior world, making us and everything else it dreams/thinks its creations. If you decide to go down that rabbit hole I imagine you can have a good enough life, why not?
The rub comes when you turn around and try to spread the good word. Too many act as if they've forgotten that there is no evidence, that the mindset of their faith is but one of myriad rabbit holes one can choose. "Follow me, everyone. We've got carrots and Christ-on-a-stick down our hole, and the party never stops!" Some of us like it here above ground and aren't shopping for tunneled believing.
(November 9, 2017 at 1:21 am)pool the matey Wrote: Obviously only use this against assholes that just want to mock and belittle you, having a discussion is always good but some people are just assholes that doesn't deserve a decent conversation and it also doesn't hurt to have a bigger arsenal.
I don't doubt your qualifications for making this determination.
