(November 11, 2017 at 10:43 pm)datc Wrote:(November 11, 2017 at 10:37 pm)Astreja Wrote: Well, it's certainly *my* doctrine. I do not find any philosophical arguments for gods convincing. At some point, all of them break down with an unsupported assertion about "necessity" or "greatest possible being" or some other declaration that cannot be empirically demonstrated. At that point, the argument is dead in the water and we're no closer to finding any actual gods.
Can *your* doctrine that philosophy is useless for reasoning about God be empirically demonstrated?
This is goofy.
Look, you have an idea about an existent thing, God. If you want other people to believe that God exists, you will have to demonstrate this to be true. If you want to juggle semantics and play with logical devices, that's fine. But it's not your job to decide what standard people must accept in order for them to believe you-- it's theirs.