Heads up everyone ... Vatican to Fall

[BethK]

But Catholics have been praying to Mary ever since Fatima for the conversion of Russia. They finally got their wish just over 20 years ago. So, has the "prophecy" not kept up with current events, or was everything fixed and nothing could be done to change it from the start?

Actually, they weren't looking to convert Russia. They need a Pope to consecrate Russia. Sounds idiotic, I know, but there you have it. That happened and it was over.

Actually, they WERE looking to convert Russia. Official prayers for the conversion of Russia, complete with their indulgence value, can be found at http://catholicism.org/prayers-russia-conversion.html

Pre-vatican 2, prayers for the conversion of Russia were composed by Pope Leo XIII http://catholicism.org/prayers-russia-conversion.html Of course, there are some reactionary Catholics (beyond how reactionary they usually are) who feel these should never have been stopped.

Or, read more about how this pertains to Fatima specifically at http://www.fatima.org/crusader/cr21/cr21pg24.asp

Then come back, as you'll definitely need some atheistic writings to bring you out of that. Or, read or watch anything by Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris to help you realize that the world has not gone insane.

Beth - who rebelled and was a Catholic during my college years - until I came to my senses.