(November 15, 2017 at 12:47 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(November 15, 2017 at 12:33 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: And without a mind to form a concept by abstraction, what would be the status of some potentially abstractable quality? It seems that it would remain unabstracted, and be none the worse for it.
That would make the quality something objectively real independent of any mind perceiving it. If there were no minds, diamonds would still be hard, wood would still be flammable, stars would still have mass, photons would still travel at the speed of light, and collections of objects would still be numerable.
But a god would not exist.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.