Neo-Scholastic Wrote:Mister Agenda Wrote:I asked for an object (a material object, not a conceptual one, since apparently that can't be taken as given) to be derived from an abstraction, unsupported by material evidence.
Well, in that case probably not. I don't see how that is relevant.
If something material and real can't be proven to exist without relevant verifiable evidence, how can something immaterial but capable of directly affecting reality be?
I think we can't prove any object or entity with independent existence (outside of minds that conceive it) is real based on logic alone, except ourselves (I think, therefore I am...I think). I think apologetic arguments are futile even if there IS a theodic God if that God hides.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.