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Problems with atheism
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RE: Problems with atheism
(August 17, 2011 at 9:24 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Frankly that’s a short coming on your part.

Very probably! I am a human being, and like all human beings one thing I have in plenty is shortcomings.

Quote:Fact is there are secular options. You could have spoken to ANY professional therapist or family councilor with exactly the same expectations of confidentiality. Most of who have better qualifications to deal with personal issues than your average clergy.

I had no TIME to figure out how to find a family councillor or whatever. I didn't even know there was such a thing as a family councillor - i still would not have the faintest idea of how to go about getting one. It would certainly involve appointments and phone calls and arrangements and umming and form filling and all the usual - whereas to get to the local minister all I had to do was give him a bell. No appointments, no forms, no red tape, none of all that. Gave him a bell, told him it was an urgent personal matter on which i needed his advice, and he came round within a day. Bang. Just like that. No way could I have organised that with a therapist or councillor or whatever.



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Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 11:01 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by frankiej - August 17, 2011 at 11:24 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Minimalist - August 17, 2011 at 11:46 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by frankiej - August 17, 2011 at 11:47 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by searchingforanswers - August 17, 2011 at 11:49 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 11:50 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by weakagnostic - August 17, 2011 at 11:52 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 17, 2011 at 11:54 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 12:37 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Cinjin - August 17, 2011 at 2:22 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 2:42 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Cinjin - August 17, 2011 at 2:50 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 3:31 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Cinjin - August 17, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Paul the Human - August 19, 2011 at 6:21 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Cinjin - August 20, 2011 at 1:25 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Faith No More - August 20, 2011 at 2:02 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Cinjin - August 20, 2011 at 2:06 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by frankiej - August 17, 2011 at 11:55 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 11:56 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by DeistPaladin - August 17, 2011 at 12:19 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by frankiej - August 17, 2011 at 12:34 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 17, 2011 at 12:36 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by frankiej - August 17, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 17, 2011 at 12:50 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Welsh cake - August 17, 2011 at 1:33 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 2:16 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 2:44 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 17, 2011 at 2:46 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 4:56 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Faith No More - August 17, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 12:00 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 18, 2011 at 7:00 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 4:01 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 4:45 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Faith No More - August 17, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Faith No More - August 17, 2011 at 4:58 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Cinjin - August 17, 2011 at 5:04 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 17, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 8:39 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 5:00 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 7:20 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Skeptic - August 17, 2011 at 7:53 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Welsh cake - August 17, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 7:45 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Justtristo - August 17, 2011 at 7:42 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 7:58 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Skeptic - August 17, 2011 at 8:45 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 9:27 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by popeyespappy - August 17, 2011 at 9:24 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 9:35 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by padraic - August 17, 2011 at 7:57 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 17, 2011 at 8:38 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 9:08 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by padraic - August 17, 2011 at 10:12 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 9:08 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 17, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 9:40 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 9:30 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 9:52 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 9:40 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 9:43 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 9:55 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 10:17 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 17, 2011 at 10:21 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 12:15 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Welsh cake - August 18, 2011 at 5:50 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 9:22 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:28 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by LastPoet - August 18, 2011 at 11:32 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Welsh cake - August 18, 2011 at 12:00 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Kayenneh - August 18, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Statler Waldorf - August 18, 2011 at 1:54 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 18, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Statler Waldorf - August 18, 2011 at 2:05 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 2:06 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Statler Waldorf - August 18, 2011 at 2:34 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 18, 2011 at 2:06 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Statler Waldorf - August 18, 2011 at 2:46 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 2:37 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Kayenneh - August 18, 2011 at 2:44 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Statler Waldorf - August 18, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 18, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 2:50 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 18, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Statler Waldorf - August 18, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 2:53 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by theVOID - August 18, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by padraic - August 18, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Statler Waldorf - August 18, 2011 at 8:25 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Darwinian - August 18, 2011 at 8:27 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Minimalist - August 19, 2011 at 12:09 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Paul the Human - August 18, 2011 at 8:28 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by padraic - August 18, 2011 at 9:11 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 8:35 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 9:03 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 9:14 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:17 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 18, 2011 at 10:27 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 10:37 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 10:41 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 18, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 10:48 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 18, 2011 at 10:49 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Cinjin - August 19, 2011 at 2:44 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 10:58 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 18, 2011 at 11:35 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Epimethean - August 19, 2011 at 1:36 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Kayenneh - August 19, 2011 at 3:21 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by thesummerqueen - August 19, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Minimalist - August 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2011 at 3:01 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Faith No More - August 20, 2011 at 2:42 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Epimethean - August 20, 2011 at 9:57 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Godnose - August 21, 2011 at 5:22 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by Nathan6329 - August 20, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: Problems with atheism - by Epimethean - August 21, 2011 at 10:07 am
RE: Problems with atheism - by padraic - August 22, 2011 at 7:22 pm

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