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Messin' With Atheists
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RE: Messin' With Atheists
(November 21, 2017 at 3:07 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(November 21, 2017 at 1:14 am)Haipule Wrote: How in the HELL did you arrive at such nonsense from Isaiah 45:7? Are you a Hebrew speaker, or scholar? Or, did someone teach you how to be that brilliantly stupid? You shouldn't put words in God's mouth, or mind, He never said nor thought! In your defense, why not, everyone else does! And they went to school to learn how to be that BRILLIENTLY stupid! Language has rules! Language reveals intellect, intent and has context! If you said that to be funny: never mind!


I can't speak to what Face2face was referring to, but Isaiah 45:7 does refer to the Yahweh character claiming to have created evil. And since evil acts often times lead to the murder and death of humans, the connection can be made.

But the thing is, there are plenty of other Bible passages where the Yahweh character does specifically order the mass murder of entire towns, so, there is that.

Deuteronomy 13:13-19 says to slaughter an entire town if one person in it worships another god.

Deuteronomy 13:7-12 says to kill your own family if they worship other gods.

Ezekiel 9:5-7  says to kill anyone in a town, men, women and children, if their forehead is not marked.

And those are just a small sample of murder ordered by Yahweh.

I can't imagine a worse universe, than one where this evil being actually existed. Too bad there are so many people on this planet who actually believe he does exist, and believe he is good.
Yes, and God told King Saul to kill them all, men, women, children and animals. Saul disobeyed God and lost his life. And the throne of Judah and Israel was given to David who "Killed his tens of thousands".

The OT can be brutal. But with out Deuteronomy, I would have no clue how to handle my two wives Smile

Your confusing killing and "murder".

(November 21, 2017 at 3:24 pm)Cyberman Wrote: And poor old Uzzah, killed for the crime of trying to stop the god-in-a-box from falling off its cart. Moral: don't bother helping anyone.
That "god-in-the-box", with is contents, dielectric and electric materials, gold cover, cherub wings and raised platform, was a super capacitor of immense power. I would've suggested not to touch it as well.
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Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 18, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by vorlon13 - November 18, 2017 at 10:35 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 18, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Chad32 - November 18, 2017 at 10:43 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 18, 2017 at 10:45 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by LadyForCamus - November 18, 2017 at 10:47 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 19, 2017 at 12:04 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by vorlon13 - November 19, 2017 at 12:25 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Whateverist - November 19, 2017 at 12:39 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 19, 2017 at 3:09 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Whateverist - November 19, 2017 at 7:50 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Minimalist - November 19, 2017 at 3:03 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 19, 2017 at 4:00 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by downbeatplumb - November 19, 2017 at 4:26 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Ravenshire - November 18, 2017 at 10:49 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 18, 2017 at 11:07 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Chad32 - November 18, 2017 at 11:29 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Losty - November 18, 2017 at 11:15 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by mordant - November 18, 2017 at 11:17 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 19, 2017 at 1:30 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Martian Mermaid - November 19, 2017 at 3:03 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Martian Mermaid - November 19, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 19, 2017 at 2:42 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 19, 2017 at 3:32 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 19, 2017 at 4:41 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by downbeatplumb - November 19, 2017 at 4:47 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Martian Mermaid - November 19, 2017 at 2:24 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by The Grand Nudger - November 19, 2017 at 5:50 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 19, 2017 at 7:28 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 19, 2017 at 6:13 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by SaStrike - November 19, 2017 at 7:09 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - November 19, 2017 at 7:19 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Whateverist - November 19, 2017 at 7:31 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by downbeatplumb - November 19, 2017 at 7:47 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - November 19, 2017 at 11:45 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by downbeatplumb - November 19, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 19, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Edwardo Piet - November 19, 2017 at 9:09 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Aegon - November 19, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by vorlon13 - November 19, 2017 at 3:58 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Simon Moon - November 19, 2017 at 3:59 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by The Valkyrie - November 19, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by MysticKnight - November 19, 2017 at 9:34 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Whateverist - November 19, 2017 at 9:41 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Angrboda - November 19, 2017 at 11:24 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Fireball - November 20, 2017 at 1:12 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by MysticKnight - November 19, 2017 at 9:45 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Whateverist - November 19, 2017 at 10:40 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 20, 2017 at 12:47 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 20, 2017 at 3:43 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 20, 2017 at 4:51 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 20, 2017 at 6:57 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Whateverist - November 20, 2017 at 9:12 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 20, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2017 at 3:58 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 20, 2017 at 4:18 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Edwardo Piet - November 20, 2017 at 5:05 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by CapnAwesome - November 20, 2017 at 4:49 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Edwardo Piet - November 20, 2017 at 5:07 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 20, 2017 at 7:05 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Whateverist - November 20, 2017 at 7:43 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 20, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by The Valkyrie - November 20, 2017 at 8:47 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Whateverist - November 20, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by The Valkyrie - November 20, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 20, 2017 at 9:25 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Whateverist - November 20, 2017 at 9:34 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 20, 2017 at 9:52 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Face2face - November 21, 2017 at 12:39 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 21, 2017 at 1:14 am
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Simon Moon - November 21, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 21, 2017 at 5:13 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Simon Moon - November 21, 2017 at 6:01 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 3:24 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 5:57 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 21, 2017 at 9:08 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 6:13 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by vorlon13 - November 21, 2017 at 6:43 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 21, 2017 at 7:21 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Simon Moon - November 21, 2017 at 7:59 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 21, 2017 at 8:54 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Simon Moon - November 21, 2017 at 9:03 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Haipule - November 21, 2017 at 9:26 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Simon Moon - November 21, 2017 at 8:04 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 8:11 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 9:10 pm
RE: Messin' With Atheists - by Succubus - November 21, 2017 at 9:43 pm

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