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Charles Manson, dead at age 83
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RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83
(November 21, 2017 at 6:34 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(November 21, 2017 at 1:20 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok? If it's illegal, they ought to "have qualms about it." Unless of course, they don't have qualms about going to prison for life, which is exactly what should happen to people like Manson. Whether or not they think they'll get caught is irrelevant.

Remember, this was your response I originally responded to:

Quote:Psychopathy and narcissistic peraonality disorder would be my guess. But nothing severe enough that he couldn't understand that what he was doing was wrong and be deemed innocent.

Do you concede now that understanding that something is wrong and being made aware by society that something is deemed wrong are not the same thing? In the latter case, you're told by others something is wrong, but you may or may not get what's so bad about it. In such case, I do think there is a major deficiency then in moral reasoning.

For all intents and purposes, not at all. If you know that society deems something as wrong, then you understamd that it is wrong. That understanding may not come from you internally, but you still know its wrong, and in the law, that's what matters.

And again, we both agree that Manson's sentence of life in prison was appropriate, so I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. If you think he was innocent for reason of insanity, then I cant imagine why you'd think it's fair to put an innocent man in prison for life instead of taking him to a hospital.
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Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 20, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 20, 2017 at 9:29 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by AFTT47 - November 20, 2017 at 10:16 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Fireball - November 21, 2017 at 12:21 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Ravenshire - November 20, 2017 at 10:40 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 12:32 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 2:19 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 11:39 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 11:46 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Edwardo Piet - November 21, 2017 at 7:02 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 7:05 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Edwardo Piet - November 22, 2017 at 6:56 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 22, 2017 at 7:11 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2017 at 1:03 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 4:15 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by The Industrial Atheist - November 22, 2017 at 11:25 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 22, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by The Industrial Atheist - November 22, 2017 at 12:57 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Cyberman - November 22, 2017 at 1:33 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by paulpablo - November 21, 2017 at 2:15 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by c172 - November 21, 2017 at 4:17 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 11:48 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 11:52 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 11:56 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 12:02 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 12:08 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 6:34 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 22, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 1:27 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Brian37 - November 21, 2017 at 2:01 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by CapnAwesome - November 21, 2017 at 2:14 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by LastPoet - November 21, 2017 at 2:28 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 2:20 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 3:42 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by paulpablo - November 22, 2017 at 2:25 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 22, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 22, 2017 at 2:14 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 22, 2017 at 1:06 pm

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